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  • #16
    Every time I hear someone recommend Seagate drives I see the word "sticktion" flashing in red. What a fiasco.

    Dr. Mordrid
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    • #17
      So, Doc, what drives are you using?

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      • #18
        Maxtor IIRC
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        • #19
          @Utwig: 4 x 160g Maxtor D540X, according to his sig

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          • #20
            Originally posted by VJ
            Hitachi is hgst: http://www.hgst.com ...

            I recently bought a Seagate Cheetah 10K.6, and seems to do a nice job... (too soon to tell if it is reliable though) My Quantum Atlas 10K has been sent back for the second time... still waiting for it to return...


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            • #21
              The 7200.7 40gig seagate drive I put into my sisters computer months ago is still working flawlessly.

              They look to be a simple, solid, inexpensive drive. They just arn't fast though.
              80% of people think I should be in a Mental Institute

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              • #22
                Nope, it's HGST Hitachi Global Storage Technologies...

                Dr Mordrid: what exactly are your problems with Seagate? and what else would you recommend as a quiet drive?
                Main Machine: Intel Q6600@3.33, Abit IP-35 E, 4 x Geil 2048MB PC2-6400-CL4, Asus Geforce 8800GTS 512MB@700/2100, 150GB WD Raptor, Highpoint RR2640, 3x Seagate LP 1.5TB (RAID5), NEC-3500 DVD+/-R(W), Antec SLK3700BQE case, BeQuiet! DarkPower Pro 530W

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                • #23
                  I have about 40 Maxtors running here in all with them being divided between D740X, D540X, D9 and DiamondMax Plus. I don't find them particularly noisy given that the P/S fan & fan noise in a room with several computers overwhelms them.

                  Realiability wise I've replaced ONE Maxtor drive (under warranty at that) since I started using them ~1997 +/-. All the others I've purchased still work, with the older ones now being used for archives, project backups etc.

                  Since moving to the PC back then I've replaced every WD I've owned at least once, both Fujitsus and have had 5 Seagates die an early death in the last few years and NOT be replaced.

                  Back in my Amiga days I had several Seagates die on me due to the original STICKTION debacle in 1991, a problem which Seagate has gone through several times.

                  STICKTION happens when they over-lubricate the bearings. This eventually works its way onto the platter, dries up and leads to the heads fusing to the platter(s) at the landing zone which of course would freeze the platter cold. All you'd hear is a hum out of the HDD.

                  Sometimes you could get 'em working again by giving them a rap or two after heating with a blow drier, but if this didn't work it was back to Seagate. Some got brave and opened 'em for for a heating & cleaning with alcohol, but I never felt like going that route if they were under warranty.

                  This doesn't take into account the non-STICKTION problems I've had.

                  Dr. Mordrid
                  Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 3 September 2003, 15:07.
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                  • #24
                    STICKTION happens when they over-lubricate the bearings. This eventually works its way onto the platter, dries up and leads to the heads fusing to the platter(s) at the landing zone which of course would freeze the platter cold. All you'd hear is a hum out of the HDD.
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                    • #25
                      @Dr Mordrid: Maxtor is a personal favorite too. I don't use them much now because the IBM/WD drives are faster. From memory, I haven't had to RMA one yet. IBM and Seagate are the worst noes in this respect, with WD coming in second and adding compatibility problems. Right now however, I favor the WD drives - I got to the point where I know their quirks so it's OK....

                      I just hope Maxtor would regain the top spot.

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                      • #26
                        Maxtor: Don't use them much, mainly because I commonly buy the fastest drive I can afford. Secondly because the last experience I had with them was a massively bad batch. Had about 50% go bad. That was a while ago, and they are still in business so I would guess they have fixed their QA.

                        Western Digital: My #1 choice for performance. Have been using them for years and only rarely have had them go bad. Warranty/RMA is the best when they do go bad.

                        IBM/Hitachi: Good drives, good price. On par with WD but a bit more cash.

                        Seagate: #1 choice for quiet operation. The Baracuda IV and especially V are extremely quiet drives, very reliable and the performance isn't too shabby either.

                        Jammrock
                        “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
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                        • #27
                          Exclusively Maxtor here - not really deliberate, but they are cheap and reliable (performance is only third on the list for me), so I am happy.

                          edit: oh yeah and I've never had any problems. Thought I did once, but it turned out to be a different component
                          Last edited by GNEP; 4 September 2003, 11:23.
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                          • #28
                            Everyone seems to have had somewhat different experiences. I do not buy WD drives for myself. Maxtor all the way, no problems. I still don't trust seagates, have had a few go bad. Too many nightmares with WD drives back when I was a tech support engineer for an IT firm *shudders*
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                            • #29
                              STICKTION happens when they over-lubricate the bearings. This eventually works its way onto the platter, dries up and leads to the heads fusing to the platter(s) at the landing zone which of course would freeze the platter cold.


                              Sounds like an argument for circumcision.

                              Paul

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                              • #30
                                Fujitsu worst shit ever.
                                IBM shit as well.
                                Maxtor no problems.
                                WD no problems.
                                Haven't used seagate much.

                                Fujitsu have done us all a favour by pulling out of the ide market. IBM I won't go near until they prove that they're reliable again.
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