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  • #31
    I won't pay extra for a system that is not any more stable than the one I have.
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    Ryzen: Asrock B450M Pro4, Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws V Series DDR4 PC4-25600 RAM, 1TB Seagate SATA HD, 256GB myDigital PCIEx4 M.2 SSD, Samsung LI24T350FHNXZA 24" HDMI LED monitor, Klipsch Promedia 4.2 400, Win11
    Home: M1 Mac Mini 8GB 256GB
    Surgery: HP Stream 200-010 Mini Desktop,Intel Celeron 2957U Processor, 6 GB RAM, ADATA 128 GB SSD, Win 10 home ver 22H2
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    • #32
      Hm, I've noticed that people in general seem much happier with their system stability today than a few years back. I can think of a few reasons:

      1. More mature chipsets (Athlons and P4's aren't new anymore)
      2. Common technologies (AGP, USB etc.) have also matured
      3. Mature chipset and device drivers (see above)
      4. Some corporations have actually started to compete with quality, not just speed...
      5. Bigger (and better) power supplies, more RAM
      6. Windows XP or 2000 instead of NT4 or Win9x.

      At least in my book, the computer years from 1995 to 2001 could be called "the SNAFU years"

      <small>ps. The Rock, I'm sorry for your bad experience with AMD. These computer things can be weird sometimes, and I can honestly tell you that not all AMD and/or VIA setups are flaky. My VIA KT-333 equipped Epox 8K3A+ is the stablest motherboard I've ever had the joy to own. I've had Win2K uptimes of over two months in general home use until I had to reboot because of something that I installed from Windows Update.</small>
      Last edited by Tempest; 29 September 2003, 16:05.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bsdgeek
        Hey it's DGhost, welcome back!
        hehe... good to be back... i acctually snuck back on a week or two ago, but have been too busy with other things to have much to contribute...
        "And yet, after spending 20+ years trying to evolve the user interface into something better, what's the most powerful improvement Apple was able to make? They finally put a god damned shell back in." -jwz

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        • #34
          Certainly going to be an interesting next 12 months.

          What I am going to be keeping an eye on is heat production.
          I know AMD SOI has lot to do with reduceing heat, but I am not sure about intels apporach, does strained silicon help with reduceing heat production?

          It seems to me as everyone is hitting .13 and below are getting the heat out is turning out to be a BIG limting factor.

          NV has had no end of trouble with their latest crop, and intels heat figures and speculation on needing new thermal solutions for prescott, makes me think AMD made a very good choice perservering with soi, AMD has gone from hot chip king to one of the coolest running solutions around.

          And I don't think there is much if anything beteen inetl and AMD stabilty wise, it more to do with the board and components you choose and the level of PEBKAC involved.

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          • #35
            Wonder if the next thing is Si-28

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Marshmallowman
              And I don't think there is much if anything beteen inetl and AMD stabilty wise, it more to do with the board and components you choose and the level of PEBKAC involved.
              Indeed!

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