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    Windows vs Gnome vs KDE: Positive points only.

    Ok, just to start up another thread on this, I would just like people to post things they LIKE about ONE environment or the other. This isn't a Linux versus Windows, but a GNOME vs. Windows.

    + for Gnome; Applets. Love these little things. Weather applet, Monitoring applet. Maybe even a little applet for a penguin to stare at your mouse cursor.

    +Gnome; Easy application menu. Office programs go under Office, Games go under Games. Very nice and readabe.

    +Gnome; Panels. You can put them anywhere anytime, and have any of the aforementioned applets on them.

    +Gnome; HIG. This is quite important in my opinion. Human Interface Guidelines for those who don't like Acronymns. This way any Gnome compliant program will have the same menus, same dialogs etc. Very convenient.

    +Windows; Classic theme. Although back in the day of Win95, I hated it. Thought it looked bland, boring, unattractive. That was until I actually used the XP Luna theme. Ugly, distracting, annoying. The classic theme does the job. I was so excited that WinXP was going to be themable, but it really wasn't. You have to have a hacked uxtheme.dll to do that..

    +KDE; File Manager. If you've ever opened up a 3.x version of this into a folder with lots of pictures you'll understand. You can hover the mouse over the thumbnail and see a larger version of the image in the tooltip and see the resolution and other stats of the picture. Very cool effect.

    +KDE; The CD/DVD burning software, K3b really is the one application for KDE that I use even when under gnome. Awesome stuff.

    That's all I can think of for now. Really, just things you can do under one environment that you really like, that you can't do under another.

    I LOVE being able to highlight and paste text with the middle mouse button, but that's an X thing, not just KDE or Gnome. I find myself doing that most under windows, then realizing that I can't!

    Leech
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    Perhaps I ought to switch to Gnome if Office apps and other go where they really should. They don't under KDE.
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    • #3
      +GNOME; Ximian Desktop 2. Makes your desktop as cool and responsive as BeOS with most of the bells and whistles you'd find on WinXP, only better looking.
      "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."

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      • #4
        Is Ximian Desktop 2 based on Gnome 2.2? Not the newer 2.4? I noticed a HUGE speed improvement between 2.2 and 2.4. (Hopefully 2.6 will be just as much of an improvement when it finalizes )

        Leech
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        • #5
          Originally posted by leech
          Is Ximian Desktop 2 based on Gnome 2.2? Not the newer 2.4?
          Yes.
          I noticed a HUGE speed improvement between 2.2 and 2.4. (Hopefully 2.6 will be just as much of an improvement when it finalizes )

          Leech
          I don't know much about gnome 2.4 but I do know that there's a HUGE difference between the gnoma that came by default with RedHat 9 and the Ximian desktop.
          You really should try it.
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          • #6
            Gnome 2.4 also has builtin CD burning through Nautilus much like WinXP and Mac OSX. Although I'd prefere K3B for anything more advanced than burning a bunch of files.

            I really like panels, but wish they would stop removing configuration options on them. Everytime there is a major update, ala 2.2->2.4, they remove some option I was using and I have to redo the layout of my panels.

            One thing I miss from Windows is right click drag 'n' drop to get an option popup.
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            • #7
              I did notice that they have changed around the Panel options quite a bit.

              I do really miss the drag with right click as well, though for most file things I still tend to use the CLI, but a lot of people prefer to use the GUI. Copying/Moving files have always seemed cumbersome to me through the GUI's...

              Nautilus 2.4 will also let you just right click on a .iso file and write it to CD. Though the last time I tried this it messed up, and made a coaster So I just ended up burning it with XCDroast.

              Leech
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              • #8
                Yeah a few weeks ago I realized I barely ever use Nautilus anymore. I only use it when I'm browsing several PDFs (class notes) so I can go down the list to open them and for the CD burning. I don't use many ISOs, so haven't tried that yet.

                You didn't mention OS X in the subject, but the new 10.3 (Panther) has almost something I've always wanted in other DEs. When moving files to a folder that is owned by the administrator it allows you to authenticate for a short time. If it can be converted to a switch user copy/move/whatever that'd be nifty. Although, again, I thought of this when I used Nautilus a lot more.
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                • #9
                  Yeah, didn't put OS X in there because... well frankly, it doesn't run on x86...

                  One thing I really miss from the Atari ST days is the ability to hold down control to move a file, or alternate to rename it, or even hold down both and move and rename it . That was SO useful. Haven't seen it implimented anywhere else...

                  To clarify this.. Just clicking on an icon for a file and dragging it over would copy it. If you held down the Alt. key, it would pop up a dialog box letting you rename the file. If you held down control it'd move the file to the new location, and of course... well the rest is self explanitory. Very handy.

                  Leech
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                  • #10
                    well...citing Jobs, it does...

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                    • #11
                      KDE 3.1

                      best GUI IMO. Very clean, eye-candy, and usable!

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                      • #12
                        KDE 3.2 is MUCH better. After playing around with the Alpha 1 and Beta 2, it is SO much better than KDE 3.1. They've done a lot of cleanups and some of the dialogs aren't as much as a hassle to go through to find the one option you're looking for.

                        Honestly, I don't know which I prefer between the configuration of Gnome or KDE. Gnome on the one hand has the bonus of keeping all the more advanced options under gconf. KDE has the advantage of having MORE advanced options.

                        For the corporate, I think Gnome definitely has the advantage, because it's functional, clean and doesn't have a lot that employees would mess around with and mess up.

                        For the power User, I think most would prefer KDE, though personally I don't like most of their themes. Actually I don't like the way they DO themes. With Gnome they have MetaThemes, KDE you have Styles, themes, window decorations.

                        KDE does have the option for the Cursor themes, but I think really this should be under the theming utilities, rather than under the mouse properties.

                        I do LIKE KDE, just that I like the themes in GTK/Gnome more.

                        Leech
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                        • #13
                          I need to try KDE again. I originally chose Gnome 1.4 over KDE because I tried both for a while and Gnome I could configure to my liking while KDE I could never get to how I wanted. Although after this much time its hard to want to take time to give KDE a real shot.
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                          • #14
                            I actually like the KDE themes more. (esp 3.1 and up)

                            Its like the famous crystallized theme with all the bright and rounded eye candy.

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                            • #15
                              oh to know what u guys are on about - just windoze here still. I now have a free pc for linux.... can you run kde and gnome on the same installation (my on thread comment)?
                              hmmmmm

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