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  • #46
    Juu nin to iro


    English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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    • #47
      Apparently I'm not the only "vapid linux fanboy".... It doesn't even have anything to do with linux. ssh is available for any unix. It wouldn't be ALL that hard to sniff telnet packets, considering they all go off of port 23.....

      Leech
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      In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penises, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by leech
        It wouldn't be ALL that hard to sniff telnet packets, considering they all go off of port 23.....
        Not necessarily. But still, using telnet seems like a bad decision.
        Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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        • #49
          *shudder* I would not even let telnet across my local lan at home...
          "I dream of a better world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned."

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Marshmallowman

            But every time I do a security update, there is 500k IE 6 update, which is actually the installer for the full 50+ megs of IE6. I have to uncheck that one every time!. So its not a unique problem(not even mentioning win media player)
            on the left side, under "Other options" you have a link "Personalize Windows Update". From there you can hide all the updates that you don't want (IE, WMP...etc).
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Wombat
              Not necessarily. But still, using telnet seems like a bad decision.
              Granted you COULD set it up to run on different ports, but if you don't know enough to use ssh, it's pretty likely that you're running telnet on port 23.

              Definitely a bad idea to be running telnet. As Byock so aptly put it, "I wouldn't even run telnet on my home lan" and neither do I.

              Leech
              Wah! Wah!

              In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penises, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by leech
                Granted you COULD set it up to run on different ports, but if you don't know enough to use ssh, it's pretty likely that you're running telnet on port 23.
                MMM is saying they "know" about ssh, but that it is too bandwidth intensive.

                That seems a little odd to me. Unless you're doing very, very, short transmissions, the key exchange should be negligible. And ssh offers compression, so there's that. There is telnet over SSL authentication, but .....
                Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                • #53
                  The best and most secure way to save bandwith is to...take your car and go there...

                  If you want immense bandwith, take a big portable hard drive along too.

                  Note that you might get killed in a car accident too, but it's not the same kind of security we're talking about...

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Kurt
                    If you want immense bandwith, take a big portable hard drive along too.
                    small version of "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes."?

                    mfg
                    wulfman
                    "Perhaps they communicate by changing colour? Like those sea creatures .."
                    "Lobsters?"
                    "Really? I didn't know they did that."
                    "Oh yes, red means help!"

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Kurt
                      The best and most secure way to save bandwith is to...take your car and go there...
                      Maybe in Europe, but not America. Too damn big.
                      Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                      • #56
                        you know size don't matter! better safe than sorry!

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Wombat
                          MMM is saying they "know" about ssh, but that it is too bandwidth intensive.

                          That seems a little odd to me. Unless you're doing very, very, short transmissions, the key exchange should be negligible. And ssh offers compression, so there's that. There is telnet over SSL authentication, but .....
                          Yeah, my point is whether or not they knew ENOUGH to use ssh.

                          Either way, we're in agreement, Wombat. It makes no sense in this day of the Internet to use something that is as raw as Telnet is. It's not like the certificates are these huge 5mb files that have to be sent everytime...

                          Leech
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                          In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penises, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.

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                          • #58
                            It's the "sent everywhere" part that bothers the admins.
                            Hey, Donny! We got us a German who wants to die for his country... Oblige him. - Lt. Aldo Raine

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                            • #59
                              erm only the public part of the cert is...
                              Juu nin to iro


                              English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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                              • #60
                                Yeah, they'd rather have it so that somebody could just jack in a random computer and spy on everything.
                                Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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