Goodbye to quality CRTs

[Greebe]

Megacorps are essentially communist big brother.

You have communism and capitalism mixed up.

[KvHagedorn]

Not really. Stalin preached communism but was essentially a fascist, much as megacorps preach capitalism but behave as politburo members. Very little about present-day capitalism is conducive to the sort of competition that produces better products and services. It's all about "Gorilla Game" strategies, where you ruthlessly kill off the competition and suck the dumb consumers dry.

[Greebe]

But with Communism we'd at least have decient lightbulbs

[K6-III]

While Sony may be out of the Aperture Grille game, there is no news that Mitsubishi is doing the same with Diamondtron...

[The PIT]

Originally posted by Helevitia
I can see flickering of flourescent lights easily. Actually, that is exactly what the LCD screen looks like to me.

Bit of a bugger that. No LCD's for you then.

[Evildead666]

OLED technology will brighten up the LCD display.
They are already being used in the photographic industry on digital cameras and they are way better than the standard LCD.
When they are able to ramp it to 15" and 17" and widescreen levels it will be excellent.

I don't like the current LCD's since the black isn't very black, and you can't really get an LCD with the full colour range (deep black and strong white).
also you have the problems with only one native resolution, which is crappy. The only way around this would be to have hexagonal or octagonal pixels, like in some CCD's.

[borat]

If we had no compitition and no megacorporations, then we would all still be sat here watching our 1960's style colour TV's that had the worst detail and colour reproduction imaginable. Fact is LCD is a better technology than CRT for its target customer base. When people buy monitors they want to be able to look at crystal clear pictures without blemish - most people who use a computer sceen dont even know what resolution means. We are talking about catering for the n office workers out there and every joe bloggs that walks into PC world to buy his/her PC. They dont want some old technology that takes up masses of space and power to reproduce blurry wordproccesing images, they want a slim display which produces clear images. If megacorps did not exist then no one man band in the world would have enough resources to develope new technologies and refine old ones. I'm sorry but anybody championing CRT as a better tech than LCD needs their heads read, CRT is donkeys years old whereas LCD is very young so theres a lot of refinement still to happen there. The ethos the free world lives on is that companies supply what the consumers demand, most consumers demand LCD so if you want a company to still supply you with CRT then your going to have to pay a premium for it becuase its no longer mass production, though we are used to that being matrox users.

[leech]

Originally posted by Jon P. Inghram
Going along with the lowest common denominator thing, is the classic 60 Hz issue in Win2k and XP. I imagine there are plenty of people who buy LCD's because because the "crappy" CRT monitor they had before flickered due to Windows defaulting to 60 Hz.

If you've got limited desk space or go to LAN parties a lot an LCD is awesome though.

Funny story about that... at my job, where I'm no where near being the computer tech... They decided to upgrade all the PC's to Windows XP from Win2k (not sure why, they could use just dumb terminals in my opinion, but whatever...) Well of course after the upgrade, it was running at 60hz. So as I'm sitting there working, the woman who uses the computer most and says, "please help me, I'm getting sick from looking at the screen!" I laughed and knew exactly what it was, changed the refresh rate and she hasn't complained since.... I need to just start charging a consultation fee

That always pissed me off that it defaults to that, it SHOULD read the edid of the monitor and set up the best refresh possible, like XFree86 does (well, at least if you put the refresh rates in the XF86Config-4 file, it defaults to the best...)

Leech

[xortam]

Originally posted by Evildead666
OLED technology will brighten up the LCD display.
They are already being used in the photographic industry on digital cameras and they are way better than the standard LCD.
When they are able to ramp it to 15" and 17" and widescreen levels it will be excellent.

I don't like the current LCD's since the black isn't very black, and you can't really get an LCD with the full colour range (deep black and strong white).
also you have the problems with only one native resolution, which is crappy. The only way around this would be to have hexagonal or octagonal pixels, like in some CCD's.

There are many xED technologies in the works and are apparently quite promising.

Fixed pixel display will look much sharper than their counterparts when displaying at native resolution. The trick is to have your source signal at that resolution or have an excellent scaler that will produce the appropriate resolution.

AFA pixel shape ... in the RPTV world, TI is about to ship a new DLP chip (DMD) that is speculated to have their mirrors reoriented by 45 degrees to produce a diamond grid versus the current cross-hatch grid. This should really smooth out the image. There also is speculation that this chip can be driven in such a way as to produce two pixels for each mirror rather than the current 1:1 ratio. The fill rate dramatically improves by the way these new DLPS multiplex each mirror ... at least that what we're all speculating. The folks that have seen the new chips in action have said the contrast is improved and the image is much more film like.

[Nicram]

Well it's true that LCD are new technology.. but not so new to got so many problems/bugs i think. & i think CRTs are much better. Eh. Better is always enemy of good.

[xortam]

Actually LCDs are pretty mature as far as new display technologies go. Their isn't too much more improvement that will occur and other new technologies will be taking its place in all but the smaller cheaper sizes (desktop/laptop displays and "small" TVs).

P.S. I just found out that there will be a 45" LCD this year (despite what the Sharp Corp. Pres. said) and even larger by the end of the year or early next year if they slip.

[borat]

Originally posted by xortam
Actually LCDs are pretty mature as far as new display technologies go. Their isn't too much more improvement that will occur

Thats the nature of improvement, you dont know what improvements will happen tommorrow because if you did then they would be present today. I suspect that in the 70's they didnt know what tweaks would happen to make the CRT of the 90's superior to the one of the 70's, but that did not prevent the improvement.

[Greebe]

in the 70's they didn't need TV's let alone monitors that would do super high res... heck they really weren't pushing that envelope til the 90's

[Taz]

If I was reading this thread 18 months - 2 years ago I'd have probably agreed, TFT's have improved greatly over this time so most of these issues don't exist. I've recently swapped my 20" Philips CRT for a 17" LG TFT and am in no hurry to swap back

[DentyCracker]

They are still way overpriced, and mostly shite though.