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  • Oops Intel's done it again as an ICH6 defect appears on the latest 915/925 boards!

    Just after releasing its new Pentium 4 chipsets on June 21, Intel has notified motherboard makers that an ICH6 defect has been found on some boards and products should be recalled from the channel, according to sources at the makers.

    Shipments to the channel have already been suspended and all boards based on the 915 and 925 chipsets are being recalled. The sources indicated that Intel has assured the motherboard makers that it will provide compensation for any losses.

    Intel Asia Pacific's director of marketing Stanley Huang confirmed that problems have been found with ICH6, but customers have been notified and everyone is working to solve the problems. When asked to expand on the issues, Huang indicated that it was inappropriate for him to comment in any more detail. The problem has caught many of the motherboard makers off guard, coming so soon after the launch and at a time when Intel seemed to be running full steam ahead.

    Bloomberg earlier today quoted Masatoshi Mizuno, an Intel official in Tokyo, as saying, “We’ve found a malfunction in a limited lot of controllers and we’re discussing how to handle the situation with our customers.”

    Sources suggest that the problem has been made worse by inconsistent communication from various Intel departments. The motherboard department announced the 915/925 recall to their customers in the US before the chipset department told the Taiwan motherboard makers.

    Intel has told the motherboard makers that the defect occurs in ICH6 south bridge chipsets manufactured between June 7 and June 14. According to the sources, the defect may even prevent the defective boards from booting. Sources estimate the problem may affect a lot of around 10,000 boards per customer, but some motherboard makers have said that the problem is limited to isolated boards.

    First-tier motherboard makers, including Asustek Computer, Gigabyte Technology and Micro-Star International (MSI), said that they are already implementing Intel’s suggested solution, and that they have suspended shipments from the channels. However, production and marketing costs, as well as damage to their reputations are expected to have a significant impact.

    Nevertheless, because the 915 and 925X series are higher-end products (more than US$120 per chipset), motherboard vendors don’t expect the problem to have spread very far. OEM makers, which have been more aggressive in developing the 915-based products, may be more seriously hit, sources said.

    The incident is similar to Intel’s recall of 820 chipsets in May 2000, but with a less serious impact. In the 2000 recall, Intel paid customers US$110-130 for each defective product and recalled all-related materials. The company is likely to implement a similar remedy this time.

    In an effort to limit the impact on its second quarter financial results, Intel will not compensate the motherboard makers until July, the sources commented.

    The sources suggested that local chipsets players and Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) may benefit from this recall, which broadens the window of opportunity for competing solutions. The opportunity for local chipset vendors in the LGA775 Pentium 4 market is limited by their lack of available products.

    Defect in Intel’s new 915 Pentium 4 chipset causes rush by motherboard makers to recall boards Intel has told the motherboard makers that the defect occurs in ICH6 south bridge chipsets manufactured between June 7 and June 14. The motherboard department announced the 915/925 recall to their customers in the US before the chipset department told the Taiwan motherboard makers. In the 2000 recall, Intel paid customers US$110-130 for each defective product and recalled all-related materials. Sources estimate the problem may affect a lot of around 10,000 boards per customer, but some motherb

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    wow, intel is going through some tough luck

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    • #3
      New CPUs, new interconnects, new ram, new soundcontroller, new hdd controller, etc . I think they're lucky it even works at all...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kurt
        New CPUs, new interconnects, new ram, new soundcontroller, new hdd controller, etc . I think they're lucky it even works at all...
        That's what development boards are for. The motherboards these things are developed and tested on are often far more useful than the ones that get sent to consumers.
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        • #5
          You mean "rushed" to consumers

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          • #6
            No, I don't mean that at all.

            I mean that when I work on processors or bridges, the development motherboard costs five figures, is two PCBs, the larger of which is about 2'x3.5', and is hooked up to a $200,000 bus analyzer.

            Damn useful.
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            • #7
              I could see the "WOOOOWWWW" factor fo having one, but appart from that, what good would it do me??



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              • #8
                I read somewhere that the problem with these ICs wasn't in the design, but rather a flaw in the manufacturing process.

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                • #9
                  which was controled by MS software?
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                  • #10
                    Well at least they recalled them. If it was Via they'd first deny the problem then they'd blame someone else then they'd admit the problem and then deny it again.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Wombat
                      No, I don't mean that at all.

                      I mean that when I work on processors or bridges, the development motherboard costs five figures, is two PCBs, the larger of which is about 2'x3.5', and is hooked up to a $200,000 bus analyzer.

                      Damn useful.
                      my bad, it's not a design flaw (this time) it's a manufacturing problem.

                      @TP: VIA will screw up soon and blame it on Intel. Wait for them to release their S775 chipsets...

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                      • #12
                        Now why I would be at all concerned about that I don't know. I am never buying a Presshot anytime ever
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                        • #13
                          hey wombat, you work for intel right?

                          if so, i find the irony that you are using an AMD as ur main system

                          but blah, not that it really matters

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chrono_Wanderer
                            hey wombat, you work for intel right?

                            if so, i find the irony that you are using an AMD as ur main system
                            I used to work for HP, on chips that Intel sold.

                            No real irony there, I wouldn't have had a $10,000 IA-64 workstation for a home machine anyway. I guess that if you want irony, it would be that the HP employee discount was so crappy, that most people bought Dells.
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                            • #15
                              Do you mean Itanium?

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