Intel intentionally compromising license?

[Claymonkey]

Sth about AMD I still don't understand is why they don't focus more on chipsets and compilers. OK they have limited resources with respect to Intel, but HECK, they're a MULTI-BILLION dollars company. The can surely afford a compiler team and their chipset business could become a major profit center, just as chipsets are for Intel.

They're the ones in the best position to extract the most of their CPUs, yet they rely on 3rd parties to do so. Said 3rd parties having huge interests in the Intel market, except for Nvidia - until recently.

OEM are also looking for packaged deals and stability. Only Intel will offer that and that too plays against AMD.

Heck I agree that they should AMD should make their own chipsets. I still remember the 760/761 chipsets fondly. BUT businesses tend to be VERY conservative when it comes to new infrastructure in ANY form and who wants to compile their code with more than one compiler, especially when each dev costs money (I don't know what Intel and MS charge for them but I remember hearing it isn't cheapish.. could be wrong though).

[Kurt]

AMD should just make the best compiler possible. Their gain is that they're sure THEIR CPUs run as fast as possible with THEIR compiler, NOT to make the others run slower. HECK, they might even grab market share from MS and Intel.

[djroberts]

AMD CPU's are IA32 or IA32-compatible? I don't know.

IMO, a compiler should produce the best code for the target CPU.

If Intel does sth BAD/ILLEGAL, they should be punished. No doubt about that.

About AMD contracting Intel to optimize its compiler, yes I think they should still try it. If Intel says NO, it will play against them [Intel].

Sth about AMD I still don't understand is why they don't focus more on chipsets and compilers. OK they have limited resources with respect to Intel, but HECK, they're a MULTI-BILLION dollars company. The can surely afford a compiler team and their chipset business could become a major profit center, just as chipsets are for Intel.

They're the ones in the best position to extract the most of their CPUs, yet they rely on 3rd parties to do so. Said 3rd parties having huge interests in the Intel market, except for Nvidia - until recently.

OEM are also looking for packaged deals and stability. Only Intel will offer that and that too plays against AMD.

I am really beginning to loose all respect for AMD. The more they whine about Intel the more info comes out that really shows how they just don't have there shit together.

Did any of ya'll see Hector Ruiz on Squawk Box this morning. He was touting how strong AMD was in the Flash sector and totally skated around saying anything about how AMD just had to sell there Flash Division recently cause they can't compete with Samsung, Intel or anyone.

What a poor pathetic sweaty little man he is. I can't respect anyone that comes across like he did.

dj

[Wombat]

AMD should just make the best compiler possible. Their gain is that they're sure THEIR CPUs run as fast as possible with THEIR compiler, NOT to make the others run slower. HECK, they might even grab market share from MS and Intel.

It would be really hard for AMD to do that. Intel has bought up the vast majority of the best talent in the compiler business, kcc and then some. I know some people that are great compiler folks, but they're all academics and happy to stay that way.