ULi M1695 - The next SiS 735?

[Dr Mordrid]

FWIW this MSI w/ATI chjipset has been running nicely and it uses a ULi southbridge.

Dr. Mordrid

[Nuno]

running the G400 at 1x AGP doesn't really make it any slower in 'real world' performance. There are plenty motherboards around where you need to force 1x AGP because of too much noise on the AGP bus.

That was just a small part of it. That example was just to show that sometimes you can´t judge a brand because only a bad experience. As i said, I own another Asus motherboard now, and I´m fully satisfied. Motherboards with VIA chipsets, well, that´s another story...

[Dr Mordrid]

"Fully satisfied" with a VIA chipset?

Don't even get me started on that topic

Dr. Mordrid

[Nuno]

The A7N8-X has Nvidia N-force2 chipset, not VIA, and it does work as it should since day one.

I think I stated clearly what I think about VIA, I bought another Asus board, but I most certainely won´t buy a VIA chipset again.

[Marshmallowman]

I am suprised no manfacturer has tried just putting a bridge from PCI_ex to AGP,
It seems to me that there are a lot video cards around that have the done exatclty that., why not for a motherboard? or perhaps a PCI-ex to AGP riser card...

Anyways that uli chipset seems to be a very good solution in that it does not seem to compromise performance, with me having 2 decent AGP cards its should be a nice interim solution until PCI-ex really hits the mainstream(eg PCI-ex add on cards become common, not just video)

[KeiFront]

I am suprised no manfacturer has tried just putting a bridge from PCI_ex to AGP,
It seems to me that there are a lot video cards around that have the done exatclty that., why not for a motherboard? or perhaps a PCI-ex to AGP riser card...

It already exists but it's only really usefull for low profile cards: http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/n...sp?news_id=167

But the asrock board looks like a better solutions it's a pitty it lacks firewire and gigabit network though , lets hope some other manufacturer brings out another mobo with this chipset.

[Marshmallowman]

It already exists but it's only really usefull for low profile cards: http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/n...sp?news_id=167

Excellent, I want to buy a pci-ex dual opteron system, but the extra $$ required to upgrade to buy a new decent video card is a bit of stumbling block. Now to see if I can actually find one in Oz.

[voltronX]

So this will be my next mainboard, i´m not sure what RAM to buy though; does this board work with DDR2 667 RAM (which apparently costs as much as DDR400) ?

[Marshmallowman]

All current AMD processors use DDR 1,

I don't think AMD will be changeing to DDR2 this year, maybe next year and it will probably include a socket change.

[Wombat]

All current AMD processors use DDR 1,

I don't think AMD will be changeing to DDR2 this year, maybe next year and it will probably include a socket change.

I'm pretty sure it would have to. DDR2 definitely has more lines to it than DDR, and I don't think socket939 et al have the pins to spare.

[voltronX]

ah
thx for the clarification

[Nuno]

I finally got a 939-Dual + a venice 3200+ for around 200€, and I can say I´m more than pleased. I kept all my old hardware (it even has a 20-pin PSU connector), and without any effort I´m running the CPU@2450Mhz with almost silent cooling (coolermaster Vortex TX 2000rpm fan). Troubleless assembly (IDE and floppy connector are very poorly placed, though), very good performance, very stable, tested with some 3dmark and, of course, Prime95 torture test.

Highly recomended for those on a tight budget (it costed me 74€ VAT included) and who think AGP still isn´t dead

[Tjalfe]

All current AMD processors use DDR 1,

I don't think AMD will be changeing to DDR2 this year, maybe next year and it will probably include a socket change.

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/11/04/amd_roadmap_update/

AMD is gearing up to make a big push to support dual-channel DDR 2 SDRAM with new desktop processors and a new interconnect, the 940-pin Socket M2, in Q2 2006, the latest leaked company roadmap reveals.

During that quarter, AMD will ship four M2-enabled dual-core Athlon 64 X2 processors numbered from 4200+ to 5000+, an Anandtech report claims. These are all based on the 'Windsor' core. Windsor's single-core sibling is 'Orleans', and it will form the basis for new Athlon 64s, rated at 3500+, 3800+ and 4000+ - presumably the 3700+ will have gone by then. Earlier roadmaps suggested fewer M2 X2s at launch - just the 4800+ and the 5000+, clocked at 2.4GHz and 2.6GHz, respectively.

[Nuno]

The Asrock 939-Sata2 will support M2 CPU´s...

[Nowhere]

Pacifica isn't about the same as Hyperthreading. It wouldn't make sense anyway for AMD, and it shows because AFAIK Hyperthreading won't be included in next Intel cpu's based on Pentium M (Hyperthreading was basically a way to get around the design decision of making pipeline in P4 very long, which lowered effectivness; now with second thread working on the same chip the CPU could be better used overall, especially if other thread has some cache miss etc.)

Pacifica is basically virtualisation for Xen (etc.), under which client OSes right now must be recompiled. With Pacifica you'll be able to run unmodified OS as client in Xen...