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  • #16
    Wombat,
    Go to http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux to download the BETA drivers for Linux.

    Lukey,

    The drivers for the Live! can discern if you have the full retail or not. The Live! let's you connect up to 2 digital I/O boards and has more features in the driver set and software arena. For example, the Live! has a MD recording utility because it can do digital recording, the value cannot (unless you buy the $54 Optical digital I/O card). The Live! has 1024 midi voices, the value has 512, but the number of 3D wav channels is the same. The Live! also has 1 or 2 extra internal connectors (ISD2 and one other?) that are for digital devices. So basically, the Live is for the phreak and the value is for the everyone else (notice in my sig I have the Live!).

    As for in the box differences, the Live! comes with the actual sound card (duh), a digital I/O daughter card (takes up a slot, but connects to the Live! card, SPIDF IN/OUT, MIDI IN/OUT and mini DIN I/O), all the cables you need to hook it up (Sony CD audio pass through, digital CD pass through, MIDI cables...), the drivers and a bunch of LE audio packages. The Value comes with the card, the drivers and a CD cable (I believe). OEM's are usually the card and drivers.

    Performance wise they are the same. The more RAM you have the better since any Live! uses your local RAM to store the sound banks. The sound banks are 2, 4, and 8 MB in size, plus you will need a little extra for sound caching. I usually cache double the amount as the sound bank I am using (but I have 256 MB RAM). If you decide to run customs banks and load a crap load of MIDI intruments, you may need more. A lot of explaining for one little card. BLAH, I am done.

    Jammrock

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    PIII 540 (120 MHz x 4.5 - 540), 256 MB PC133 SDRAM, ASUS P3B-F, Winblows 98 SuckyEdition, 18 GB WD Expert HDD, Encore 6x DVD w/ Dxr3 decoder, (TEMPORARY!!!) Voodoo 3 2000 @ 175 MHz which will be replaced by a Matrox G400 MAX, Sound Blaster Live! full retail, MAG DX715T 17
    “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
    –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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    • #17
      Jamm you de man...

      Cheers

      Lukey
      Lukey
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      PII333@412(4x100+T), 128MB PC100, ABIT BE6, G20016MB+V2SLI, SBLive, 19" Sony GST, 56K USR

      "Follow your dreams, you can achieve your goals, I am living proof...beefcake...BEEFCAKE!!!"

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      • #18
        hehehe...I build a lot of computers, so I got to know the numbers man.

        Jammrock

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        PIII 540 (120 MHz x 4.5 - 540), 256 MB PC133 SDRAM, ASUS P3B-F, Winblows 98 SuckyEdition, 18 GB WD Expert HDD, Encore 6x DVD w/ Dxr3 decoder, (TEMPORARY!!!) Voodoo 3 2000 @ 175 MHz which will be replaced by a Matrox G400 MAX, Sound Blaster Live! full retail, MAG DX715T 17
        “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
        –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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        • #19
          The Live Value for sure. I had a MX300, made some games stutter which now run smooth with the Live Value. Audio is cleaner as well and support from Creative fantastic. Also software and utilities are great. The MX300 did have a "bigger sound" for some games but for extended play at high volumes, the colouration became stressful.
          Such a small unassuming little board, lets hope for Intels sake that the same designers dont start designing CPU's.

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          • #20
            Just got my Live Value in the mail today and can't wait to install it but I have to go to work tomorrow and I don't want to install and "test" all my games out . But from what I have read and from friends experience A3D is much better for hardcore 3d gamers that have high end systems but for people that want to do non-game audio stuff but they still play 3d games than Live is the way to go.

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            • #21
              I was wondering this same thing myself. I'm interested in a new 3D sound card, but have not been able to determine any noticeable difference in the reviews I've read between the SB Live! and the Aureal Vortex 2.0 boards (MX-300). The MX-300 OEM costs about $10 more than the SB Live value, so I'd like to know if there is actually a noticeable difference.

              Since my CPU is relatively slow, the SB Live! might be better, but if there is a large difference in 3D sound effects, then the MX-300 might be better.

              Any comments/suggestions are welcome.





              AMD K6-2 300, 128 MB RAM, 11 Gb Hard Drive, Voodoo II SLI setup (2 8 meg Monster 3D IIs), Sound Blaster AWE 64 value.

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              • #22
                I'm very happy with my Live (full version). I'm sure my choice of speakers is partly responsible for it's excellent performance. I've got the digital out plugged into a $2000 Dolby Digital surround system. You haven't lived until you've played HalfLife with 500W of noise blowing at you. Don't forget the 200W powered subwoofer. Rockin'.

                It's not all the speakers though. It still sounds wicked through headphones plugged directly into the card. Very clear. I would recommend it to anyone. Only get the full live if you need the digital I/O though, the value is basically the same card.

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                Andrew Gallagher - andrew@agallagher.com
                Asus P2B-S, PII-350, 64MB PC100, 12.7GB Quantum Fireball EX ATA-33, 3.2GB IBM Deskstar3 EIDE, 2 Quantum Atlas I 2.1GB UWSCSI, Toshiba 6201 SCSI CD, WangDAT SCSI, MillG200 8MB (Anxiously awaiting my G400MAX), SBLive! Retail, Win98SE



                [This message has been edited by agallag (edited 07-25-99).]
                Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard coated bastards with bastard filling. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive, bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine. -- Dr. Perry Cox

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