EMI chief: CD is dead

[Dr Mordrid]

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.aspx?siteid=mktw&guid=%7BBA27DA69-B92A-473A-AF46-0CBE9DFA59EE%7D

Talk about stating the obvious 2-3 years too late

[Technoid]

Still it's sad to hear that they still don't seem to understand why the sales has dwindled.....

[Dr Mordrid]

Nope....still wandering in the dark

[KvHagedorn]

Stating that "The CD is Dead" might be misconstrued. Sleazebag record producers just don't need to be driving Ferraris and snorting $10,000 worth of cocaine a week. If they just made a normal upper-middle class living and stopped trying to sue everyone, they could lower the prices of CDs to six or seven dollars and sell tons of them. But NOOOOO! Stupid slimeballs.

[Mehen]

I never heard people complaining of high CD prices until an alternative came around. I think I'll have to take the Metallica stance on this one.

[Technoid]

I never heard people complaining of high CD prices until an alternative came around. I think I'll have to take the Metallica stance on this one.

I think you just remember what you want to remember....

and theres always been alternatives to buying the cd, taping it for instance...(some MP3's I've heard makes 3 gen tapes sound great)

and neither the cops nor the record companys bothered if you wasnt selling the copies.

and people did complaine but nobody cares, especially the press didnt care shit, cause nobody cared if someone taped it of his friend.

one thing they do understand and has known from the start:

It's all about the distributing, loosing controll of what we listen to! (that's why they never when nuclear about comercial piracy, they still controlled what was spread, they did and go nuts over bootleg selling )

The insanity is how they try to curb the uncontrolled distributing.

because they knew already then what a lot of listeners and musicians has found out....

That with the internet, they (the record companys) are not longer necessary

in 97' they (the record companies) could have killed what have now become the P2P world by either lowering the price on CD's or by themself offering Mp3's for sale (remember that in 97-98 it could take everything from 20 min to an hour to encode 4 minutes of music to an MP3 that sounded like crapp )

There would still had been a p2p movement, but it would had been a fringe movement.

Well, they missed the train and it has rolled over them....

and now in their death throws they are determined to derail the train

[Dr Mordrid]

That pretty well sums it up

[Mehen]

Well it might have had something to do with the fact that 10 years ago, before P2P, I was 10 years old and no one I associated with bought CDs except for myself and my dad

Back then, $15 for something I would play over and over again, read through the liner notes, enjoy and listen to every day, it was a steal. Even with my poor concept of money. I look at it this way - you get a high quality recording in a nice little package, you get to listen to something a group of very talented musicians worked hard on for months and months, and were only able to make it in the first place because they dedicated their lives to it. It is NOT our RIGHT to get cheap music, it is a priviledge to get it.

[Technoid]

Well it might have had something to do with the fact that 10 years ago, before P2P, I was 10 years old and no one I associated with bought CDs except for myself and my dad

Back then, $15 for something I would play over and over again, read through the liner notes, enjoy and listen to every day, it was a steal. Even with my poor concept of money. I look at it this way - you get a high quality recording in a nice little package, you get to listen to something a group of very talented musicians worked hard on for months and months, and were only able to make it in the first place because they dedicated their lives to it. It is NOT our RIGHT to get cheap music, it is a priviledge to get it.

None of the cd's I have ever bought has ever come with liner notes (I assume you mean the lyrics text?).

I had $75 a month to live on (I was still living with my parents so food and housing was "free" ) and $15 was a huge chunk out of that for a cd...

Not to mention the fact that those poor musicians only got a few cents for every CD sold, I'd say its not a given right for the distributors to make huge earnings on the work of others!

when vinyls stopped being sold in sweden they cost aprox $7-$8, cd's started out at $12 (atleast that's what they cost when I first saw em)because they where new "tech" and everyone that sold em said that the record companys had promised that they would drop to $8-$9 "soon" as the technology matured.
When I bought my first CD player and cd it was $13 and they were still promising price drops, after a while they stopped mentioning price drops and continued to raise the price.

In every other sector goods tend to become cheaper as manufacturing becomes cheaper, not in the record buissnes, they found their golden egg layer and they won't let it go without MAD(just look what their lobying is doing to the society, stuff that they want to protect their buisness model is used to wreak havok on so much else).

And don't tell me how "expensive" it is to record and promote a new cd, they hang most of it on the artists

[Sasq]

aye, if the artists were getting most of the purchase price of a CD, I would honestly have little issue with the current cost of CD's.

sadly on a $30CD, an artist is lucky to get get even $1, some goes on distrib costs and advertising, the rest goes up some music execs nose.

pass.

[Claymonkey]

Gurm and I were just talking about this and the sad fact is that the artists are getting even LESS money from music sold through online channels such as itunes. Indentured servitude looks good versus some of these models. You HAVE to be a huge success to make money off of your music these day.

[Technoid]

Gurm and I were just talking about this and the sad fact is that the artists are getting even LESS money from music sold through online channels such as itunes. Indentured servitude looks good versus some of these models. You HAVE to be a huge success to make money off of your music these day.

Most artists makes most money while on tour.

That's why some bands releases so few CD's and yet has so much concerts.....

[Claymonkey]

Oh I know... I just the whole system a bit barbaric.