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    Article....

    Windows XP outshines Vista in benchmarking test

    New tests have revealed that Windows XP with the beta Service Pack 3 has twice the performance of Vista, even with its long-awaited Service Pack 1.


    Vista's first service pack, to be released early next year, is intended to boost the operating system's performance. However, when Vista with the Service Pack 1 (SP1) beta was put through benchmark testing by researchers at Florida-based software development company Devil Mountain Software, the improvement was not overwhelming, leaving the latest Windows iteration outshined by its predecessor.

    Vista, both with and without SP1, performed notably slower than XP with SP3 in the test, taking over 80 seconds to complete the test, compared to the beta SP3-enhanced XP's 35 seconds.

    Vista's performance with the service pack increased less than 2 percent compared to performance without SP1--much lower than XP's SP3 improvement of 10 percent. The tests, run on a Dell XPS M1710 test bed with a 2GHz Core 2 Duo CPU and 1GB of RAM, put Microsoft Office 2007 through a set of productivity tasks, including creating a compound document and supporting workbooks and presentation materials.

    In response to the test, a Microsoft spokesperson said in a statement that although the company understood the interest in the service packs, they are "still in development" and will continue to evolve before their release. "It has always been our goal to deliver service packs that meet the full spectrum of customer needs," the spokesperson said.

    If SP1 does not evolve sufficiently, it could be another setback for Vista, with many businesses waiting to adopt the operating system until the service pack is released.

    A year after its launch, only 13 percent of businesses have adopted Vista, according to a survey of IT professionals.

    Microsoft admits that the launch has not gone as well as the company would have liked. "Frankly, the world wasn't 100 percent ready for Windows Vista," corporate vice president Mike Sievert said in a recent interview at Microsoft's partner conference in Denver.

    Microsoft has not done enough to make users aware of the benefits of Vista, NPD analyst Chris Swenson said at the conference. "The problem is that there are a lot of complex new features in Vista, and you need to educate consumers about them...much like Apple educating the masses about the possibilities of the iPhone or focusing on a single feature or benefit of the Mac OS in the Mac-versus-PC commercials. Microsoft should be educating the masses about the various new features in a heavy rotation of Vista in TV, radio, and print ads. But the volume of ads (for Vista) has paled in comparison to the ads run for XP."

    XP has proved to be more popular than its younger sibling, with the first six months of U.S. retail sales of box copies of Vista 59.7 percent below those of XP's in the equivalent period after its release.

    Microsoft has had to allow PC manufacturers to continue to sell XP on new PCs, setting a deadline for the last sale at January 31. However, the pressure from manufacturers and consumers has been so great that Microsoft has been forced to extend the deadline another five months, until June.

    According to Microsoft, sales of Vista have been picking up, with the software giant reporting 88 million units sold.
    Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 29 November 2007, 00:35.
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    "Frankly, the world wasn't 100 percent ready for Windows Vista"
    How about ""Frankly, Windows Vista wasn't 100 percent ready for the world"?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Umfriend View Post
      How about ""Frankly, Windows Vista wasn't 100 percent ready for the world"?
      gah - you want truth from a large company executive?
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      • #4
        I'm using Vista x64 for about year now and it's not bad at all. I would never go back to XP.
        The tests, run on a Dell XPS M1710 test bed with a 2GHz Core 2 Duo CPU and 1GB of RAM, put Microsoft Office 2007 through a set of productivity tasks, including creating a compound document and supporting workbooks and presentation materials.
        Office for benchmarking?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Adis View Post
          I'm using Vista x64 for about year now and it's not bad at all. I would never go back to XP.

          Office for benchmarking?
          considering that the article was aimed at business adoption, yes, office for benchmarking makes sense.
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          • #6
            According to Microsoft, sales of Vista have been picking up
            Considering they are trying to make it as hard as possible for people to buy XP or machines with XP then it's not surprising
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            • #7
              So I thought "would the results change much if you went from 1gb to 2gb or the test bed. Since I know a system 'feels' different once you go over 1gb of ram in Vista.

              A quick google search gave me this result

              http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.c...id=2163&page=3

              and while a Winstone Office Productivity test might not be the best judge they system shows not much gain with double the ram..... I guess I'll be sticking with XP even longer than I thought.
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              • #8
                and......

                http://keznews.com/3793_Update__Re-T...M__Office_2003

                Office 2003 test:


                Office 2007 versus 2003:
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                • #9
                  I must say I cannot remember the last time I was waiting for any office app to do its thing.. it is blazing fast on any system I have ever used. Back in the 486 or early pentium days, it may have hampered productivity, but not now.
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                  • #10
                    Depends on the complexity of your projects. I'm not impressed at all by Vistas performance with complex video projects, which is why it's only on a beta rig.
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                    • #11
                      Running SP3 RC1...very nice so far. It looks like the System Restore Engine has been completely reworked...even though I disable it when I have completed a build of Windows, I sometimes use it to backout a driver if things don't go well during driver installations. Wireless Networking has also been worked over to make WPA2 WMI-manageable.

                      Two problems I found in RC1:

                      1) The W32Time Service has some problems with multiple Time Servers (NTP Failover) - fixable in the Registry...just make your entries in the "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Pa rameters" key: it's the NtpServer REG_SZ subkey.

                      2) The HD Audio does not work after a clean install of XP SP3 RC1. KB888111 for HD Audio doesn't work because the Service Pack 3 RC1 exceeds SP2...most HD Audio installers bundle this KB, but will fail to install the HD Audio device because of this... I found that totally unacceptable. So, being the nasty hacker I am, I came up with this Workaround:

                      1) Extract the KB888111 to a folder:

                      Code:
                      C:\Temp\KB888111xpsp2.exe /U /X:C:\Temp\HD_AUDIO
                      2) Point the Device Manager (or Devcon.exe) to the hdaudio.inf file in the C:\Temp\HD_AUDIO\commonfiles directory.

                      3) Run your applicable HD Audio Codec installation program.

                      You should have a working HD Audio device at this point. I have had success using this method with the Realtek ALCxxx Series and SigmaTel STAC Series HD Audio adapters.
                      Last edited by MultimediaMan; 1 December 2007, 08:48.
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                      • #12
                        I see that the hotfix KB888111 is not freely available for download...what exactly does it do ?
                        I've been having sound problems lately, with the onboard Realtak HD audio, and my SB Audigy 2 ZS.
                        The sound locks up, and so does the PC. It sort of 'burps' a few times before completely locking the PC.
                        CPU utilisation is 2-5%, temps are good....

                        'burp' = short period of sound locking <1s
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                        • #13
                          KB888111 is the Microsoft UAA HD Audio Bus Driver; there is Codec software which must be applied afterward to actually get the sound working (supplied by the codec mfg. - Realtek, Sigmatel, et, al...)

                          As far as audio problems go, you're probably better off with the HD Audio adapter....the drivers are written to a MUCH more well-defined standard. Ditch the Audigy and see how things go.
                          Last edited by MultimediaMan; 1 December 2007, 08:47.
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                          • #14
                            If anyone has troubles getting KB888111 let me know and I'll grab it.
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                            • #15
                              Vista is still a POS, and probably will be even with SP1. Perfect example: Got a new laptop at work, supposedly fully Vista compliant with enough memory and dual core Centrino etc. It is sluggish at doing anything and takes forever to boot and shutdown. Formatted and put XP SP2 on, and its now its nice and fast at everything that sucked on Vista.

                              XP SP3 will just make the performance gap even wider.

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