1.TB harddisk

[snedker]

Hi
anyone having problems with 1. tb disks ????
i´ve heard there were problems with heat ???
i´m looking for WD re2-GP 1.tb or a seagate (ns) disk 1.tb

[Mehen]

No first hand experience, but I hear that Re2 GP is quite good. Low power consumption and it has a 5-year warranty.

TechReport review: http://techreport.com/articles.x/13578

[Belwarrior]

slightly off topic..

Wondering when will Manufacturers going to follow proper sizes, their 1 TB is actually only about 950GB.

i'm looking at getting a TB drive as well (too much porn accumulated i guess like what my CEO predicted).

[Dr Mordrid]

The inevitable difference between how manufacturers count bytes/gig vs. how it's counted in Windoze.

[Fat Tone]

Why blame Windows for the old 1000/1024 trick? Surely that's the HDD marketing to blame?

[VJ]

Actually, the name is now correct... Appropriate units have been introduced by IEC and approved by IEEE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte

Main reason was that in the binary world, the traditional prefixes like kilo and mega where actually used incorrectly. With these units, kilo still means 1000, mega still means 1000^2.

So taking this into account, 1 GB = 1000^3 bytes, whereas 1 GiB = 1024^3 bytes. Some softwares already use the notation.


Jörg

[Fat Tone]

Thanks Jorg, I hadn't heard of that. It's great that it was standardised. I wish everyone would follow. Perhaps we should instigate 'world binary awareness day'

[VJ]

This link holds more information (and lists some softwares that take it into account):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix

I know about it, as we were given specific directions at the university to use the new units in our courses.


Jörg

[Jammrock]

I've seen the MiB acronym floating around, but never understood the difference until picking up the links from this thread. Very interesting indeed.

[UtwigMU]

It's like this CPR manual I remember, that was directed at general populace and had all the body temps, etc... in kelvins. If body temp goes above 313,15K do this etc...

[Umfriend]

I still believe that it is silly to say 1K = 1,000 in the context of strictly binary machines. Now, the addressing space of a 16bit register is 65.536K instead of 64K. Apparantly, the machine I am now writing this post on has 2.14748365Gb of internal memory. I just don't see why the introduction of new units is better than using the units that did exist adjusted for the binary nature of the [what is the English word voor the Dutch "Grootheid", similar to Joule being a unit and Energy the "Grootheid"] that is being measured.

IIRC, in the old days, sizes of FD and HD-drives were indeed measured as such. Would not be surprised if CD's actually still are.

[VJ]

Well, the new units remove the ambiguity (when properly used)... 1 K = 1000, 1 Ki = 1024 .

As the most commonly used interpretation is not altered, it should make for a smoother transition (but still, the units have been ratified quite some time, and they failed to gain wide acceptance).


Jörg

[dZeus]

I still believe that it is silly to say 1K = 1,000 in the context of strictly binary machines. Now, the addressing space of a 16bit register is 65.536K instead of 64K. Apparantly, the machine I am now writing this post on has 2.14748365Gb of internal memory. I just don't see why the introduction of new units is better than using the units that did exist adjusted for the binary nature of the [what is the English word voor the Dutch "Grootheid", similar to Joule being a unit and Energy the "Grootheid"] that is being measured.

IIRC, in the old days, sizes of FD and HD-drives were indeed measured as such. Would not be surprised if CD's actually still are.

maybe silly, but as Jörg says, at least it's unambiguous. It wouldn't be the first time that an ambiguous meaning has wasted loads of money (e.g. Ariane V, some mars orbiter/lander, etc).

The problem is that someone (or more people?) started using kilo, mega, etc in a non-standard context (1024 instead of 1000). Maybe MS did reporting free size on the hdd, as Dr. Mordrid said? And not all prefixes are powers of 1024 in the computer world, even these days: other than the HDD manufacturers who correctly state the size of the drives they sell, all transfer speed prefixes use powers of 1000 instead of the non-standard 1024: 100Mbps = 11.92 MiBps

[Umfriend]

Yep, that is a good point dZeus. I withdraw my earlier statements and now argue for the opposite.

[TransformX]

Source of the problem is that we were born with 5 fingers on each hand, thus the decimal counting. Had we were born with 4 (like in most cartoons), we'd count in octal and computer math would've been so much more straight forward.
If on the other hand, we'd be born with 6 fingers on each hand, we'd probably reach far more advanced mathematics by now. Unlike 10, which divides to 1/2 and 1/5, 12 divides to 1/2 , 1/3, 1/4 and 1/6. Yes, it makes a BIG difference with the early discoveries of mathematics.