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  • #1

    Guys, I need help!

    Now, what's up with this:

    My friend and i got allmost the same systems.
    Me: MSI6167/Athlon 650/128mb/G400Max.
    Him: MSI6167/Athlon 600/128mb/G400Max.

    Bestides that, I've got a faster HD and original PC133 mem, he doesn't.

    Now, running 3dMark2k, i get about 2770 3dmarks@1024x768x16. He get's about 2780. At 600 fregging mhz! I got 50mhz more, and better hardware! I can't figure out what's wrong. We've got the same bios's, driver versions, dx7, etc. I have no irq conflicts, no programs running, nothing loaded in autoexec.bat or config. Pure.

    Someone tell me what's wrong with this picture? HELP!

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    Athlon 500@650 Rock Stable (500 Core, 4ns)/MSI 6167/128mb/7200rpm/SB128/G400Max/Win98/RH6.0

    Athlon 800@1GHz/MSI 6167/256mb/7200rpm UD66/SB128/G400Max/Win98/Win2k/RH6.2/Be5
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  • #2
    I've given up on 3dmark. It just doesn't really seem to show true to life performance. Not to mention I got skewered when I came on here worrying about similar results
    Ami Y. Koriuchi - MY EMAIL IS DEAD

    SYSTEM1
    Asus K7V266 - Athlon XP 1800+ - GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB -
    1024 MB PC2100 DDR -
    200 GB UDMA100 7200 RPM - 60GB LVD 160 10K RPM

    SYSTEM2
    Asus A7V133 - Athlon 1.4 - G400Max
    768MB PC133 - 75 GB of 10k RPM SCSI UW

    HI SOMETiMES I GO AWAY FOR LONG TIME AND COME BACK YEARS LATER HI!

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    • #3
      Use a different benchmark and you should probably see some REAL results. If they're still low, then you have a problem (sorry for stating the obvious.... ).

      Dimitri
      "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: His eyes are closed"
      --- Albert Einstein


      "Drag racing is for people that don't know how to brake and downshift at the same time."

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      • #4
        3DMark2000 hasn't been to reliable, use a different benchmark. My friends PIII 450 with a 32 MB TNT2, old 5400 RPM UDMA 33 drive, and 256 MB PC100 RAM nearly edged me out in 3DMarks and I have a 32 MB G400 (faster in D3D than the TNT2), Athlon 650 (a 200 MHz difference on a faster CPU), 128 MB PC133 RAM, and a 7200 RPM WD hard drive running at UDMA 66.

        Play UT and my computer smokes his hands down. Use 3DMark99, a Ziff Davis 3D bench or something else. Don't trust 3DMark until they come out with a fixed version of 2000.

        Jammrock

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        Athlon 650, Biostar board, 128 MB PC133 (Crucial), G400 32 MB DH, SB Live! w/ Digital I/O, 10/100 NIC, lots of case fans, etc...
        “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
        –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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        • #5
          My 600 + Gigabyte Ga-7IX + 128 Mb pc100 10ns cas3 sdram + Mill G400 oc´ed to Max speeds gives me 2710 3dmarks. That´s without superbypass enabled (Irongate rev 4 ) So, it can´t really get worse . With 8 ns cas2 Pc100 and superbypass enabled, I´m not surprised that someone gets 2780 3dmarks or even more with an AThlon 600.

          So check if the memory specs are the same and if you are both running with superbypass (or not). 3dmark2000 is quite sensitive with memory performance.

          PS: and check the agp miniport driver you´re using. Latest AMD releases have decreased performance. I tried 4.61 and the score consistently lowered to 2695 3dmarks. Installed 4.45 again, and there you are, 2710. At least the damn bechmark gives consistent scores, eh?
          Not that there is a big performance hit with 4.61, but all works fine with 4.45, so why bother?


          [This message has been edited by Nuno (edited 02 March 2000).]

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          • #6
            Sheit!.. Well, we both use the latest agp miniport. Where can i find older versions?

            But... are there any benchmarks that are reliable? I'd REALLY like to see if this diffrence is actually for real, or just a 3dmark flipout.

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            Athlon 500@650 Rock Stable (500 Core, 4ns)/MSI 6167/128mb/7200rpm/SB128/G400Max/Win98/RH6.0

            Athlon 800@1GHz/MSI 6167/256mb/7200rpm UD66/SB128/G400Max/Win98/Win2k/RH6.2/Be5

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            • #7
              Bench Quake3, Quake 2, 3dmark99. Much better.

              Here´s the 4.45 miniport: http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/bin/miniport_445.exe

              Are you running the cpu cache at 1/2?

              [This message has been edited by Nuno (edited 03 March 2000).]

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              • #8
                Maybe your friend's MB has Super Bypass, and yours doesn't.
                Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                • #9
                  Yes, I run at 1/2 at benchtimes. Normally, I run 1/3 to be a little nice to my L2 cache, but now it seems H-Oda's tool has flipped out .. "Can't run on this machine" .. bah.. same for my friend aswell..

                  Hmm, this super bypass thing... You mean one MSI6167 board has it, and onther one don't?

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                  Athlon 500@650 Rock Stable (500 Core, 4ns)/MSI 6167/128mb/7200rpm/SB128/G400Max/Win98/RH6.0

                  Athlon 800@1GHz/MSI 6167/256mb/7200rpm UD66/SB128/G400Max/Win98/Win2k/RH6.2/Be5

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