PC Critix Celeron II Review

[CHHAS]

Has anyone read the PC Critix review yet ?

( http://www.pccritix.com/hardware/celeronII/ )

If this is the performance one can expect, who'll wan't one ?

In Q3 a Celeron 2 533 is stomped bad by an P3 550, and when overclocked to 800 it barely beats the 550 P3.

So what if it's cheap? If todays games depend that much on bus-speed and memory bandwith, it just won't be worth the money.

Unfortunately PC Critix didn't bench the Celeron with memory speed at FSB + 33 MHZ, that would have been interesting.

Anyway, just my 0.02$

[Wombat]

CHHAS,
There's this magical group of people out there, they're called the "average user" -- they don't really play games. Just thought you'd like to know. Also, most business's can save a lot of money by buying a Celeron or a Spitfire.

-Wombat

[CHHAS]

Hey, no doubt about that Wombat.

But still, I think it is a bit of a disappointment, considering the way the 300A@450 did against the P2 450, but that's life.

I was hoping the new Celeron could save me some $, but it would seem that it really is below Coppermine perfomance

Still hoping for the Spitfire though

[cjolley]

CHHAS,
It looks to me like the the OC CII is faster (sometimes by a lot) than the 550E at half the price.
Plus @ 100mz it needs no exotic memory to get that speed.
Sounds good to me!
chuck

ps Things will probably look even better when it's tested on a BX board.


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[CHHAS]

Yes, but not when taking into consideration the overclocking potential of the Coppermine (and if you're willing to overclock one, then you'll be willing to overclock the other).

What I'd really like to see is some benchmarks with either the Celeron 2 at FSB+33 MHz memory speed, or, the Coppermine with FSB-33 MHz memory speed.

I still can't quite believe that the 33 MHz bus speed, nor the 128 to 256 kb level 2 cache increase, can be so important, maybe there are other differences in the chips ?

[Dyre]

There is always the possiablity these guys have no idea what they are doing. Plus theses are enginering samples. Im going to wait till some more reviews before i form much of an opionon. Right now they still look pretty cool to me.

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[Rags]

CHHAS,

All that article shows is how flawed 3DMark is as a benchmark. Q3 shows where the real numbers lay. I have to say that if I were to be faced with the decision between my P3 550E and that celeron, I would have jumped all over the celeron. The celery has a significant price advantage, and the way I upgrade my HW lately, I wouldn't have had any probs with coughing up cash for the next big cpu that comes out...but that's just me.

Rags

[CHHAS]

Yes, still hoping for other reviews to paint another picture, still it's just disappointing to see, I had such high hopes for the new celery.

Think I'll wait for the Spitfire (and keep my fingers crossed )

[Rags]

I KNOW the spitfire is one hell of a performer, and it performs better than a celeron (or a coppermine in games for that matter), but I will pass on it too unless there are some more compelling reasons to go to an Athlon motherboard.....still waiting.

Rags

[Wombat]

Rags:
DDR-RAM? Works for me.

[Maniac]

They should have benched it against a P3-800. That way both would be running at 100fsb. No dought when you crank up the memory, AGP etc to 140mhz+fsb, you will see much higher scores since you are O/C many of the components. The 3Dmark 2000 benchmark is suspect IMO. No way a 550E and a Celeron2 at 800 should be that close...

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[Rags]

Hawkeye,

DDR? Sounds nice if it would actually materialize and DDRSDRAM were available and affordable (which I think IS more likely than say...RDRAM )
And maybe stability, compatibility...mostly when the mfrs decide to mature the design a bit more..

Rags

[odyn]

Erm... guys... what is Spitfire again?
(I'm afraid I have missed it)

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Odyn

[Greebe]

odyn, it's AMD's next generation Athlon"esque" cpu.

Hop over to AMDZone.com