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  • #16
    Helevitia
    I have to agree - its far faster for me than IE5 - and not exactly that buggy either. Ive got it on 4 machines in a row here in front of me and other than highlighting some bad javascript (ive fixed it), and some odd HTML use, its fine.

    The machines are all different too - PII233, PII400, PIII450, PIII645 (oc'd). Win 98/SE etc.

    Just like all beta software, it will need a bit of feedback. Plus a few releases. Lets not forget that IE5 has had a few (I mustve gone through about 15 'updates' so far with it).

    My main IE5 moan is its amazing 'Jenga' type ability to bring a box down with it. So far, My NS6 hasnt doen that.

    bert
    G400 32 D/H, PIII650@840, ABIT-BE6II, MX300

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    • #17
      NS 4.7 has a thing that drives me crasy;
      If you have multiple NS windows each of them has to wait on each other;
      If Window1 tryes to reach microsoft.com and it is slow or fails none of Window2 or thre can rerach any other site on the net untill the first window either time out or finniches!

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      • #18
        Jason, I agree with you on most of it, but for on the crashing part.

        No browser has crashed on W3C code since... well, ever really. Until now. Quality coding, I say.
        Browsers crash about every single time. Bert is right with IE5 having to update to yet another version every time, yet you don't see what version IE5 you're using (And the complete Windows Update stinks IMO)

        Back to what you said Jason: "Quality coding, I say" ... What is Quality Coding in a beta release? Why is it a beta release? To get rid of the bugs in it.
        Did you email Netscape or the Mozilla team about the crashing? Did you use NS Talkback to register the error at their Product Development Team? Did you do anything, aside from telling us that the new NS 6 stinks, to prevent Netscape 6 from crashing again in the future?

        Look, I'm not giving you a lecture here, or attack you, but at least you should email Netscape Dev. to let them know your beta product crashed, was slow and all that.

        How else will they know? Or do you hope that some NS chap has a Gx00 vid-card and is on these forums frequently?

        LOL... Sorry... Had a quick laugh there!

        I wonder who's frequenting the Netscape 6 forums... Looks like none of us is

        Jorden, ready to be knocked out by Jason, but that's alright
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        • #19
          Jorden,

          I agree we should hop over to the Netscape forums. However, I need to clarify.

          What I mean is that if I have a page like this:

          &<html><head><title>My Page</title></head>
          <body> [img]blah.jpg[/img] </body>
          </html>
          Ok dammit. That UTTERLY failed. I forget, how do I make tags show up? Grr...

          I have NEVER had a browser crash on a page like that - until now.

          Then again, maybe it doesn't like Windows 2000. Who knows?

          - Gurm

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          • #20
            Well, doesn't it say on those darn impossible to get in IE5 Netscape Pages somewhere that it's for Win9x/Win NT??

            And urmmm ( ), how to post a picture?



            Letsseewhatwecomeupwithonthewin2kthingythen:

            What platforms does Netscape 6 support? (What are the computer/software requirements for Netscape 6?
            ou can run the Netscape 6 Preview Release on computers with Windows, Mac OS, and Linux operating systems. See the datasheet for details.

            Do know that all these pages load alot faster with Netscape 4.7 and a proxy server on

            Jord.

            [This message has been edited by Jorden (edited 06 April 2000).]
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            • #21
              Just to add my two cents, I downloaded the ns6 preview last night, and the install went pretty smoothly. It loads very slowly, but after that, the page rendering is quite speedy. It did crash a couple of times, but lately everything on my machine is crashing (yes, I'm way overdue for a format/reinstall).

              The only real complaint I have is the lack of an uninstall option. I agree with paulcs that this is very unacceptable these days, even with beta software. Although, this is a good excuse to finally do that format.

              Oh yeah, the install program (that does the downloading of the main program) doesn't support authenticating proxies, so there's no way to download this thing at work. The kicker is that our proxy software is written by none other than Netscape! I've never liked these little download/install agent thingys. I just want to download the whole frickin' program. Is that too much to ask?


              Andrew


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              • #22
                Technoid, From my experience this only happens if one of the pages is using Java and it hasn't quite finished. Mutiple pages with straight HTML should download simultaneously.
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                • #23
                  IE5 has been perfectly crash free for me since it's been installed. It's been a HUGE improvement over IE4. Nutscrape....well uhhh just bites.

                  Rags

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                  • #24
                    I'm so glad I use Opera.:-)

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                    • #25
                      Well, I downloaded the entire program from Netscape's FTP site and installed it on a second machine. This one has even less software installed than the last. I didn't even bother installing the soundcard drivers.

                      Same thing. Yet another "illegal operations" error at the splash screen before the browser launched.

                      It could very well be conflict with WinGate, the Internet sharing software I have installed on both machine. The machines have very little else in common.

                      Paul
                      paulcs@flashcom.net

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                      • #26
                        Say Paul, this "illegal operation" thing usually says where it has occured... you might want to tell us what it occurs in?

                        Jord.
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