NVIDIA GTS GX "value" version YIKES!

[Himself]

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1266

Imagine if you will, a world in which you can buy a GTS for $109, not the $300 you are more familiar with in your mundane lives, but $109, it's time to enter the world of the budget zone.

It is targetted directly at the G450, IMO, it has dual head! Why be blurry on one screen when you can have it in stereo! It performs within 10% of the GF1 DDR cards in some games and matches the GTS in others. It's like an SDR with another 10fps added across the board. It's T&L is running at 175MHz so it's only slightly less capable as the full GTS, it does use SDR ram but it is at the very least as fast as older SDR cards selling at $130. Expect those to plummet to $80 or so. Yikes!

If this shows up any time soon, the video card industry is about to be Celeron'ed to death.

[DuRaNgO[MU]]

With a pixel fill rate of 350 megapixels per second and the ability to apply two textures at a time, you get a texel fill rate of 700 megatexels per second. This, being the more important number to look at, is much greater than the 480 megatexels/s fill rate of the GeForce 256 and clearly less than the 1600 megatexels/s fill rate of the GeForce2 GTS. But as we’re about to find out, something else is going to stand in the way of the GeForce2 MX before its fill rate can become a limitation.

To make matters even worse, the GeForce2 MX’s memory clock will be placed at 166MHz which gives it the exact same memory bandwidth as a SDR GeForce 256. So even before the GeForce2 MX can come close to hitting its fill rate limitation, it will bump into the memory bandwidth limitation that plagued SDR GeForce 256 owners not too long ago because it has the same amount of memory bandwidth as that card that was released last October.

The only problem with this is that the GeForce2 GTS is already memory bandwidth limited with 5.3GB/s of memory bandwidth. This then translates into the fact that the GeForce2 MX is already memory bandwidth limited out of the box, making its incredible fill rate for a value card not that useful of a feature.

To summarize this all, the GeForce2 MX has a 45% greater fill rate than the original GeForce SDR yet it has the exact same amount of memory bandwidth.

[DuRaNgO[MU]]

At $119 the GeForce2 MX should make everyone that paid $300 for a GeForce 256 (SDR) feel a bit cheated right about now.

[The PIT]

If you look at the benchmarks though it's not as good as it could be due the memory limitations. It's bit like the job that Intel did with the new Celery and the cache assocation so it would bash it's bigger brother.

[Compton]

Yeah but if you look at the benchmarks it's damn fast for the price. I'm almost tempted to get one... hurry up Matrox so I don't!

[Himself]

I think the important bit is that the T&L component is running at 175MHz, for low end cpus it's going to help a lot, ram bandwidth doesn't impact the T&L part much at all, it could be 10MHz and wouldn't have much impact as far as the T&L bit goes, the ram bandwidth plays a part in higher resolutions and multitexturing, bumpmapping etc. Also the much lower power consumption will mean a lot fewer problems with older motherboards. All that's left is driver issues.

Consider the G450 and the Kyro being priced at $150ish, I think they will have problems with the GTS GX in the marketplace at $119.
Of course I want to see them at that price first.

[andrei]

So now they call it TwinView (Dual Head) and Digital Vibrance Control (Vibrant Color Quality² (VCQ²)).

Still waiting to see what Matrox pulls out, hopefully not only the G450

[Himself]

http://www.guillemot.com/northameric...kpr.php3?pr=38

$150 for the base version, $200 for the "Dual Head" version. ETA July 10th, end of July respectively.

Also found this:

"The ELSA GLADIAC MX graphics board will be available as of mid-July at a price of 176,- Euro (recommended retail price without VAT). The package includes not only the standard ELSA drivers and tools, but also the software DVD decoder ELSAmovie. Thanks to ELSA's BestSelect program, customers can purchase a bundle of the season's latest games at very attractive prices."

Not a clue what 176 -Euro is though.

No $119 in sight yet.

[DuRaNgO[MU]]

typical nvdiea hype, "it's great, well almost"

[Joel]

Just remember that Matrox came out with it first and will continune to be first when it come to image quaility and features.

Joel

[GinoCyber]

Anyone know why mama's boy didn't mention anything about the dualhead performance on this thing?

Ciao

[qball]

I would be very very afraid of nVidia at this point. That company is like an 18-wheeler going 80 down a hill. They haven't been much of a problem for Matrox in the past since they have been playing to a different market. However, it seems that now they are gunning for the Matrox segment with a vengence. You might laugh at the MX at the moment, but break out the history books and think back to a little graphics card hopeful called the Riva 128. What a laughable chip, 3dfx said, is that the best you can do? They then began to get pummeled in a never-ending series of blows to the head placed every 6-months sharp. nVidia sets the pace of the graphics world; there is no other designer who can keep up with their breakneck product cycle. Their attack on the Matrox camp might be weak now, but know that before the echos of your laughing has been drown out, nVidia will have another card out and it will be faster, clearer and more feature laden that what's there now. Be warned, this is just beginning.

-Q

[Drizzt]

qball, you are right.
But you've not been capable to see all the stuffs.

Right, nVidia is running as fast to be unreachable.
From Matrox? Yes.
From ATI? Yes.
From 3Dfx? Yes.
Not only.
From final users? Yes.

nVidia. This name in italian sound exactly "invidia", that's our word for the english "envie".
Yep, really envies of the other company success, nVidia is running fast and fast and fast to demonstrate that it's the best.

All the others stay at look.
Even the final users.



[This message has been edited by Drizzt (edited 07 July 2000).]

[The PIT]

Theres been an article about overclocking this at www.anandtech.com at it overclocks very well making a very good value card.
By the way if I misspelt the site you end up in a porno site with animals.