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    I am Developing a new software and need your help...

    I am Developing a new program that might help pepole with upgrading thier computers.
    you will input your current system configuration, and the software will find the upgrade that will mostly improve your preformance...
    in order to do it, it will run "Simulated" Benchmarks of Quake3 and 3DMark 2000, Basing the score on your current hardware + the part you have upgraded... I think such a software might be useful...
    For example, let's say you have a 600Mhz Coppermine with a G400, and you want to upgrade your computer to a 1Ghz coppermine, however you are not sure if the speed improvment will be high, so to find out what preformance boost you will get, you simply run the software and it will tell you your score in sevral benchmarks (So Far it's: 3DMark 2000, Quake3 Time DEMO 1 Normal and High Quality) befor and after the upgrade...
    The final release of the software will include these settings:
    Cpu Type/FSB/Mhz rating.
    Video card Type. + OC to what speed.
    Hard drive speed.
    and Driver set.

    so far, the one part I am having problems with is the LOGIC Behind the 3DMark 2000 benchmark, AKA How can I give you a result of the benchmark without actually running it. so I have created a small DOS APP (without any interface, or any bug fixes yet... sorry...) that was Ported from my final application, where you select what hardware you have and the software caculates the 3Dmark score (Totaly Syntethic)...
    what I need for you, is that if you don't mind, run the software on your machine, select your config, and tell me what score it gave you, what is your REAL 3Dmark 2000 score and your system config.
    this will help me to "Fine Tune" the 3Dmark Test in the final software.
    Thank you.

    Download the mini-application (106K):
    http://www.angelfire.com/il/dnet/Synthetic_3Dmark.exe

    Notes:

    -if you have an Athlon, Type in 200Mhz as FSB (it DOES not take into Account the DDR FSB of Athlon systems, so please type 200Mhz).
    -there are problems with the software caculating the scores of S3/ATI Based chipsets.
    -K6-2/3 and V5 will be added in a few hours to the software...

    ------------------
    "Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven..."
    __________________________________________________ ____
    Worstation Specs:
    Asus P3B-F w/Celeron@680mhz
    160mb PC100 7ns RAM.
    Matrox G400 142/190Mhz.
    IBM 75GXP 7200RPM 15Gb.
    Seagate U8 4.1gb Hdd,
    SBlaster Live! Digital.
    17" Mag InnoVision 770Ti TrinitronFR Monitor @1152X864
    Logitech MouseMan Wheel USB (on Everglide Giganta SE)
    Focus 127keys MM Keyboard.
    HP SCSI Cd-Rw 7200Si
    Aopen X48 Optical Disc Drive.
    3Com NIc @ Tevel/3Com Cable Modem
    Modded case, the "banshee". 6 fans.
    3Com Palm IIIx + GoType + AxxPAC


    "Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven..."
    __________________________________________________ ____
    Worstation Specs:
    Asus P3B-F w/Celeron@680mhz
    160mb PC100 7ns RAM.
    Matrox G400 142/190Mhz.
    IBM 75GXP 7200RPM 15Gb.
    Seagate U8 4.1gb Hdd,
    SBlaster Live! Digital.
    17" Mag InnoVision 770Ti TrinitronFR Monitor @1152X864
    Logitech MouseMan Wheel USB (on Everglide Giganta SE)
    Focus 127keys MM Keyboard.
    HP SCSI Cd-Rw 7200Si
    AOpen X48 CD ROM.
    AOpen 1040Pro Slot DVD
    3Com NIc @ Tevel/3Com Cable Modem
    Modded case, the "banshee". 6 fans.
    3Com Palm IIIx + GoType + AxxPAC
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  • #2
    I have added these items to the mini-software:

    -Voodoo5 5500 Scores.
    -FSB Lower then 100Mhz and core greater then 650Mhz fixes
    -ATI Radeon insted of ATI Rage 128.
    -Mainboard Chipset now affect score within ~200 points.
    -Upgrade advice[s].

    the url is the same.

    [This message has been edited by DataOrb (edited 18 July 2000).]
    "Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven..."
    __________________________________________________ ____
    Worstation Specs:
    Asus P3B-F w/Celeron@680mhz
    160mb PC100 7ns RAM.
    Matrox G400 142/190Mhz.
    IBM 75GXP 7200RPM 15Gb.
    Seagate U8 4.1gb Hdd,
    SBlaster Live! Digital.
    17" Mag InnoVision 770Ti TrinitronFR Monitor @1152X864
    Logitech MouseMan Wheel USB (on Everglide Giganta SE)
    Focus 127keys MM Keyboard.
    HP SCSI Cd-Rw 7200Si
    AOpen X48 CD ROM.
    AOpen 1040Pro Slot DVD
    3Com NIc @ Tevel/3Com Cable Modem
    Modded case, the "banshee". 6 fans.
    3Com Palm IIIx + GoType + AxxPAC

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    • #3
      What about OS? Win2k is slower than win9x on some gfx cards...

      ------------------
      Cheers,
      Steve

      "Life is what we make of it, yet most of us just fake"

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      • #4
        it's one of the thigns I want to implant into the software...
        also I want to add Mainboard chipset and RAM amount/speed to the mix.
        but befor that I need to know some 3DMark scores with the REAL Benchmark and my Syntethic one...

        ------------------
        "Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven..."
        __________________________________________________ ____
        Worstation Specs:
        Asus P3B-F w/Celeron@680mhz
        160mb PC100 7ns RAM.
        Matrox G400 142/190Mhz.
        IBM 75GXP 7200RPM 15Gb.
        Seagate U8 4.1gb Hdd,
        SBlaster Live! Digital.
        17" Mag InnoVision 770Ti TrinitronFR Monitor @1152X864
        Logitech MouseMan Wheel USB (on Everglide Giganta SE)
        Focus 127keys MM Keyboard.
        HP SCSI Cd-Rw 7200Si
        Aopen X48 Optical Disc Drive.
        3Com NIc @ Tevel/3Com Cable Modem
        Modded case, the "banshee". 6 fans.
        3Com Palm IIIx + GoType + AxxPAC


        "Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven..."
        __________________________________________________ ____
        Worstation Specs:
        Asus P3B-F w/Celeron@680mhz
        160mb PC100 7ns RAM.
        Matrox G400 142/190Mhz.
        IBM 75GXP 7200RPM 15Gb.
        Seagate U8 4.1gb Hdd,
        SBlaster Live! Digital.
        17" Mag InnoVision 770Ti TrinitronFR Monitor @1152X864
        Logitech MouseMan Wheel USB (on Everglide Giganta SE)
        Focus 127keys MM Keyboard.
        HP SCSI Cd-Rw 7200Si
        AOpen X48 CD ROM.
        AOpen 1040Pro Slot DVD
        3Com NIc @ Tevel/3Com Cable Modem
        Modded case, the "banshee". 6 fans.
        3Com Palm IIIx + GoType + AxxPAC

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        • #5
          Madonion may have detailed scores and computer configuration info.

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          • #6
            This is great stuff man. Glad to see you doing this!
            C:\DOS
            C:\DOS\RUN
            \RUN\DOS\RUN

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            • #7
              Thanks guys,
              but I do need your help with the 3DMark 2000 part of the software...
              if you can, download the latest version (http://www.angelfire.com/il/dnet/Synthetic_3Dmark.exe) (build 005) and run it on your computer and please tell me if the result is the same as the REAL 3DMark2000 benchmark...
              thank you.

              ------------------
              "Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven..."
              __________________________________________________ ____
              Worstation Specs:
              Asus P3B-F w/Celeron@680mhz
              160mb PC100 7ns RAM.
              Matrox G400 142/190Mhz.
              IBM 75GXP 7200RPM 15Gb.
              Seagate U8 4.1gb Hdd,
              SBlaster Live! Digital.
              17" Mag InnoVision 770Ti TrinitronFR Monitor @1152X864
              Logitech MouseMan Wheel USB (on Everglide Giganta SE)
              Focus 127keys MM Keyboard.
              HP SCSI Cd-Rw 7200Si
              Aopen X48 Optical Disc Drive.
              3Com NIc @ Tevel/3Com Cable Modem
              Modded case, the "banshee". 6 fans.
              3Com Palm IIIx + GoType + AxxPAC


              "Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven..."
              __________________________________________________ ____
              Worstation Specs:
              Asus P3B-F w/Celeron@680mhz
              160mb PC100 7ns RAM.
              Matrox G400 142/190Mhz.
              IBM 75GXP 7200RPM 15Gb.
              Seagate U8 4.1gb Hdd,
              SBlaster Live! Digital.
              17" Mag InnoVision 770Ti TrinitronFR Monitor @1152X864
              Logitech MouseMan Wheel USB (on Everglide Giganta SE)
              Focus 127keys MM Keyboard.
              HP SCSI Cd-Rw 7200Si
              AOpen X48 CD ROM.
              AOpen 1040Pro Slot DVD
              3Com NIc @ Tevel/3Com Cable Modem
              Modded case, the "banshee". 6 fans.
              3Com Palm IIIx + GoType + AxxPAC

              Comment

              • #8
                Heh DataOrb, I don't suspect that you are doing much bug tracking yet, but I found one rather glaring bug. For any of the options, try typing anything other than a number. I know that people should be intelligent enough not to do so, but if a key is hit by accident...

                Anyway, I commend you on your rather ambitious project, I'll bet that it will be rather well recieved when you make an official release.

                One other thing, could you possibly add the G200 to the list? Thanks, and good luck.

                Ian
                Primary System:
                MSI 745 Ultra, AMD 2400+ XP, 1024 MB Crucial PC2100 DDR SDRAM, Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, 3Com 3c905C NIC,
                120GB Seagate UDMA 100 HD, 60 GB Seagate UDMA 100 HD, Pioneer DVD 105S, BenQ 12x24x40 CDRW, SB Audigy OEM,
                Win XP, MS Intellimouse Optical, 17" Mag 720v2
                Seccondary System:
                Epox 7KXA BIOS 5/22, Athlon 650, 512 MB Crucial 7E PC133 SDRAM, Hercules Prophet 4500 Kyro II, SBLive Value,
                3Com 3c905B-TX NIC, 40 GB IBM UDMA 100 HD, 45X Acer CD-ROM,
                Win XP, MS Wheel Mouse Optical, 15" POS Monitor
                Tertiary system
                Offbrand PII Mobo, PII 350, 256MB PC100 SDRAM, 15GB UDMA66 7200RPM Maxtor HD, USRobotics 10/100 NIC, RedHat Linux 8.0
                Camera: Canon 10D DSLR, Canon 100-400L f4.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon 100 Macro USM Canon 28-135 f3.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon Speedlite 200E, tripod, bag, etc.

                "Any sufficiently advanced technology will be indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C. Clarke

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                • #9
                  HedsSpaz, yes I am aware of that bug... but that DOS Application I made is nothing but a test code for the 3DMark2000 part of the software... the first beta release (in about a week or so) has a nice "Windows GUI" Interface to it, where the options are selectable by Radio Buttons.
                  I would love to add the G200 to the list, but I need to hear some results of G200 on 3DMark 2000 before I can add it.
                  so if any one feels like helping me, please post your system specs and your 3Dmark 2000 score...
                  thanks!

                  ------------------
                  "Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven..."
                  __________________________________________________ ____
                  Worstation Specs:
                  Asus P3B-F w/Celeron@680mhz
                  160mb PC100 7ns RAM.
                  Matrox G400 142/190Mhz.
                  IBM 75GXP 7200RPM 15Gb.
                  Seagate U8 4.1gb Hdd,
                  SBlaster Live! Digital.
                  17" Mag InnoVision 770Ti TrinitronFR Monitor @1152X864
                  Logitech MouseMan Wheel USB (on Everglide Giganta SE)
                  Focus 127keys MM Keyboard.
                  HP SCSI Cd-Rw 7200Si
                  Aopen X48 Optical Disc Drive.
                  3Com NIc @ Tevel/3Com Cable Modem
                  Modded case, the "banshee". 6 fans.
                  3Com Palm IIIx + GoType + AxxPAC


                  "Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven..."
                  __________________________________________________ ____
                  Worstation Specs:
                  Asus P3B-F w/Celeron@680mhz
                  160mb PC100 7ns RAM.
                  Matrox G400 142/190Mhz.
                  IBM 75GXP 7200RPM 15Gb.
                  Seagate U8 4.1gb Hdd,
                  SBlaster Live! Digital.
                  17" Mag InnoVision 770Ti TrinitronFR Monitor @1152X864
                  Logitech MouseMan Wheel USB (on Everglide Giganta SE)
                  Focus 127keys MM Keyboard.
                  HP SCSI Cd-Rw 7200Si
                  AOpen X48 CD ROM.
                  AOpen 1040Pro Slot DVD
                  3Com NIc @ Tevel/3Com Cable Modem
                  Modded case, the "banshee". 6 fans.
                  3Com Palm IIIx + GoType + AxxPAC

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    but that DOS Application I made is nothing but a test code for the 3DMark2000 part of the software

                    Ah ha! It all becomes clear now!

                    As for 3DMark2000 results for the G200, tonight I'll see if I can get the damn program to actually finish for a change. Every time I've tried so far it's crashed on one test or another. I'm going to install the 1.1 patch and see if maybe that will get it to work. I'm really hoping that it will, one of the major bugs with 1.0 was some gaping compatability problems with Win2000(which I am using), so we can hope that this will fix it.

                    Ian
                    Primary System:
                    MSI 745 Ultra, AMD 2400+ XP, 1024 MB Crucial PC2100 DDR SDRAM, Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, 3Com 3c905C NIC,
                    120GB Seagate UDMA 100 HD, 60 GB Seagate UDMA 100 HD, Pioneer DVD 105S, BenQ 12x24x40 CDRW, SB Audigy OEM,
                    Win XP, MS Intellimouse Optical, 17" Mag 720v2
                    Seccondary System:
                    Epox 7KXA BIOS 5/22, Athlon 650, 512 MB Crucial 7E PC133 SDRAM, Hercules Prophet 4500 Kyro II, SBLive Value,
                    3Com 3c905B-TX NIC, 40 GB IBM UDMA 100 HD, 45X Acer CD-ROM,
                    Win XP, MS Wheel Mouse Optical, 15" POS Monitor
                    Tertiary system
                    Offbrand PII Mobo, PII 350, 256MB PC100 SDRAM, 15GB UDMA66 7200RPM Maxtor HD, USRobotics 10/100 NIC, RedHat Linux 8.0
                    Camera: Canon 10D DSLR, Canon 100-400L f4.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon 100 Macro USM Canon 28-135 f3.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon Speedlite 200E, tripod, bag, etc.

                    "Any sufficiently advanced technology will be indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C. Clarke

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                    • #11
                      Well, the 1.1 patch did indeed work(although it didn't fix everything it was supposed to, I still can't use the online result browser).

                      Anyway, here are my system specs.(everything that might be relevant anyway)
                      Epox 7KXA
                      Athlon 650 @ 6.5 x 100
                      256MB PC133 CAS3(?) SDRAM @ 133
                      Matrox Millenium G200 8mb AGP
                      Win2000 Pro
                      IDE0 UDMA66 7200RPM IBM 13.6GB
                      IDE1 UDMA66 7200RPM Maxtor 15.0GB
                      Creative SBLive Value
                      Drivers:
                      G200 PD5.03
                      SBLive Default Win2000

                      I think thats everything that might be important. I have been completely unable to stably OC my 'puter cause the G200 unfortunately is not at all tolerant of out of spec bus speeds.
                      Anyway, I ran 3Dmark twice and ggot these results.

                      800x600x16 32z
                      3dmarks 1187
                      cpu marks test failed
                      800x600x16 16z
                      3dmarks 1398
                      cpu marks 132

                      Hope that gives you something to start with anyway, if you need stats at a different res I'll be happy to try and run it.

                      Ian
                      Primary System:
                      MSI 745 Ultra, AMD 2400+ XP, 1024 MB Crucial PC2100 DDR SDRAM, Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, 3Com 3c905C NIC,
                      120GB Seagate UDMA 100 HD, 60 GB Seagate UDMA 100 HD, Pioneer DVD 105S, BenQ 12x24x40 CDRW, SB Audigy OEM,
                      Win XP, MS Intellimouse Optical, 17" Mag 720v2
                      Seccondary System:
                      Epox 7KXA BIOS 5/22, Athlon 650, 512 MB Crucial 7E PC133 SDRAM, Hercules Prophet 4500 Kyro II, SBLive Value,
                      3Com 3c905B-TX NIC, 40 GB IBM UDMA 100 HD, 45X Acer CD-ROM,
                      Win XP, MS Wheel Mouse Optical, 15" POS Monitor
                      Tertiary system
                      Offbrand PII Mobo, PII 350, 256MB PC100 SDRAM, 15GB UDMA66 7200RPM Maxtor HD, USRobotics 10/100 NIC, RedHat Linux 8.0
                      Camera: Canon 10D DSLR, Canon 100-400L f4.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon 100 Macro USM Canon 28-135 f3.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon Speedlite 200E, tripod, bag, etc.

                      "Any sufficiently advanced technology will be indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C. Clarke

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