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  • #16
    Gurm - notice the lack of any ATA 66 controller on my comp

    imnsho SCSI is the only way to get a real increase in performance in this area. I'll just keep saving the pennies I guess

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    • #17
      Even SCSI isn't that much faster under normal operation. Seriously, I have been playing with these Ultra-160 LVD drives, and the drives themselves still only have a 26.5MB sustained transfer rate. They're just better at concurrency because the seek times are lower... and the SCSI protocol is more robust.

      - Gurm

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      • #18
        Raptor^:

        This is what I am saving my quarters for:

        <a href="http://www.storagereview.com/welcome.pl/http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200006/20000601ST318451LW_1.html">Seagate X15</a>

        3.9ms seek time... I'll take three..

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        • #19
          I've never had a problem with my Maxtors. I've had IBMs and Seagates develop bad sectors, never with Maxtors. (OK so they don't play nice with some other HDs boohoo).
          Seagates are slow, I never trusted Quantums (had a 4GB and its replacement both go bad, still have the replacement and use it to store stuff that I can afford to lose [and have btw] on it like mp3s and shit), Fujitsu --just say now and I will not comment on Samsung *yikes* *ew*.
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          • #20
            This is the noise a Quantum makes:

            Tick-tick-tick-tick-ticka-ticketa-whirr.

            This is the noise an IBM makes:

            .....

            This is the noise a Seagate makes:

            Ticktickticktick-whirr-whirr-tick.

            This is the noise a Maxtor makes:

            SNAP!SNAP!SNAP!SNAP!GRIND!GRIND!SNAP!

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            I rest my case. After working in a computer shop and seeing the percentage of DEAD drives, the winner is... NOT MAXTOR, since their drives fail in a rather spectacular manner. 75% of our returns were Maxtor. Ick.

            - Gurm

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            • #21
              No problem for me with Promise ATA66 controller and a Maxtor 27Gig drive.

              I'm using Maxtor for 4 years now, never had any problems with them!

              Hein.
              System1:
              Asus P4T533, Pentium IV 3,06GHz, 512MB SAMSUNG Rimm 4200, MAXTOR DiamondMax Plus60 20GB, MAXTOR DiamondMax Plus60 60Gb, MATROX PARHELIA, MATROX RTX100, ULTRAPLEX 40MAX, PLEXWRITER 12/10/32S, 2 x IIYAMA Vision Master Pro510

              System2:
              ASUS P4T533, Pentium IV 3,06 GHz, 512 MB SAMSUNG Rimm 4200, MAXTOR DiamondMax Plus60 20GB, MAXTOR DiamondMax Plus60 60Gb, SAPPHIRE 9800XT, CREATIVE AudigyII, ULTRAPLEX 40MAX, PLEXWRITER 40/12/40S, 2 x IIYAMA Vision Master Pro510

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              • #22
                This is the noise my slegdehammer makes

                CCrrrrrrrrrunnnnnnnch?

                No more hard drive problem
                Chief Lemon Buyer no more Linux sucks but not as much
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                • #23
                  Why are you referring to the Promise ATA/66???
                  My A7V has a Promise Ultra100(TM)IDE controler?!"

                  Athlon Thunderbird 1.1Ghz@1.2~1.3+GHz Socket A 256Kb,Asus A7V dipswitches,GlobalWin FOP32-1 heatsink,GlobalWin 802 Advance ATX Case, 17" Sony Multiscan 200PST,384MB Crucial PC133 CAS=2,ATI Radeon 32Mb DDR,(Matrox Millenium G400 MAX 32MB 5ns SGRAM),IBM Deskstar 75GXP 15Gb UltraATA/100, Quantum Firebal EL 10.2Gb,Hewlett Packard DeskJet 970Cxi,Epson Perfection 1240U Scanner,Sound blaster Live!,Cambridge Soundworks 5.1,Creative PC-DVD 5X,CDR-RW Ricoh MP7040S@MP7060S(Tweaked from 4x---&gt;6x with no problem),Adaptec SCSI 2920C,Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO,Iomega Zip Drive.

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                  • #24
                    Werewolf read this article from tomshardware:

                    <A HREF="http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/00q3/000821/index.html" TARGET=_blank>Fastest IDE Hard Drive Ever:
                    IBM Deskstar 75GXP</A>

                    ATA100 IS faster than ATA66 but there is no UATA100 drive than can get to the limits of UATA100 YET.....
                    Athlon Thunderbird 1.1Ghz@1.2~1.3+GHz Socket A 256Kb,Asus A7V dipswitches,GlobalWin FOP32-1 heatsink,GlobalWin 802 Advance ATX Case, 17" Sony Multiscan 200PST,384MB Crucial PC133 CAS=2,ATI Radeon 32Mb DDR,(Matrox Millenium G400 MAX 32MB 5ns SGRAM),IBM Deskstar 75GXP 15Gb UltraATA/100, Quantum Firebal EL 10.2Gb,Hewlett Packard DeskJet 970Cxi,Epson Perfection 1240U Scanner,Sound blaster Live!,Cambridge Soundworks 5.1,Creative PC-DVD 5X,CDR-RW Ricoh MP7040S@MP7060S(Tweaked from 4x---&gt;6x with no problem),Adaptec SCSI 2920C,Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO,Iomega Zip Drive.

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                    • #25
                      Ooops Tomshardware never say that around here!!!!!!!
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                      • #26
                        Alessandro:

                        A promise Ultra100 _is_ a Promise Ultra66. It's the same controller (I'm oversimplifying, but it's largely the same darn thing...), so it's a non-issue.

                        - Gurm

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                        Listen up, you primitive screwheads! See this? This is my BOOMSTICK! Etc. etc.
                        The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

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                        If only life were as easy as you
                        I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                        If only life were as easy as you
                        I would still get screwed

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                        • #27
                          There is a beta driver for Linux...

                          <a href="http://support.promise.com/Support/All.asp?product=ultra66">Promise Driver</a>

                          But I have never tried it...


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                          • #28
                            The worst drives that i ever encountered is:

                            WD Caviar <4GB!

                            I think we hawe about twenty headcrashed WD Caviar drives in the junk box at my work.

                            Everytime i encounter a WD drive in a 'puter i tell the customer to take frequent backups!


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                            • #29
                              WD Home PC class drives are now made by IBM, so they are safe once again. Actually they're a bit faster than IBM due to WD's being a teensy bit more aggressive with the timings.

                              - Gurm

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                              Listen up, you primitive screwheads! See this? This is my BOOMSTICK! Etc. etc.
                              The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

                              I'm the least you could do
                              If only life were as easy as you
                              I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                              If only life were as easy as you
                              I would still get screwed

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                              • #30
                                Technoid - thats probably because there was a bug on the controller of WD drives of that sort of age that could cause a head crash under certain circumstances

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