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  • Questions about SDRAM

    Hi,

    I have a few queries about SDRAM, hopefully someone will be able to enlighten me.

    1) What does CAS-2 or CAS-3 mean ?
    2) What is 2 clock cycle vs 4 clock cycle ?

    Regards.
    Primary desktop:
    Dell Dimension 4100|P3-733Mhz|512MB Crucial PC133 CL3|ATI Firegl 8700 64MB|SBLIVE|3Com 3C905c|Adaptec 2906|Quantum 40G|FUJITSU 1.3G MO|Iomega 16x10x40x|MGE 480VA UPS|Philips 200P3M|XPPro
    Secondary desktop:
    Generic P3-733Mhz|512MB Crucial PC133 CL3|Matrox G400 32MB DH|SigmaTel audio(build-in)|2 x 3Com 3C9980B|Adaptec 2940UW|Quantum 15G|MGE 500VA UPS|Sony G500|W2K

  • #2
    Here's an excellent description of memory timings.
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    • #3
      If memory serves,it has to do with the how many cycles the memory needs in order "refresh" any data that happends to be stored in the memory itself.

      The less cycles it takes,the faster that very same data becomes available for use by the cpu,video card,etc....

      The cas(and ras)latency is heavily influenced by the actual clock speed of the memory itself(especially if you overclock... ),any given memory may be certified to run 100/133 mhz(pc 100/133) with cas 2 latency settings.

      But in either case if the memory clock speed is pushed higher,it may be necessary to increase the latency sttings to cas 3,in order to avoid data corruption.

      note to self...

      Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....

      Primary system :
      P4 2.8 ghz,1 gig DDR pc 2700(kingston),Radeon 9700(stock clock),audigy platinum and scsi all the way...

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      • #4
        Wow.. this is a very technical writeup...too bad i don't understand most of it.

        Ok, let's make it simple. I'm going to shop for RAM, but my motherboard manual states that SDRAM should be non-ECC (which i understand), PC-133, CAS-3, and 7.5ns(4 clock cycle only).

        How should i shop ? Any particular brands that i should be looking for ?

        Thanks + Regards.
        Primary desktop:
        Dell Dimension 4100|P3-733Mhz|512MB Crucial PC133 CL3|ATI Firegl 8700 64MB|SBLIVE|3Com 3C905c|Adaptec 2906|Quantum 40G|FUJITSU 1.3G MO|Iomega 16x10x40x|MGE 480VA UPS|Philips 200P3M|XPPro
        Secondary desktop:
        Generic P3-733Mhz|512MB Crucial PC133 CL3|Matrox G400 32MB DH|SigmaTel audio(build-in)|2 x 3Com 3C9980B|Adaptec 2940UW|Quantum 15G|MGE 500VA UPS|Sony G500|W2K

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        • #5
          As far as i know,you don't need to look at either cas or cycle latency to ensure compatibility with any specific motherboard or motherboard chipset.

          The factors that matter most are more trivial like:

          voltage
          ecc or non ecc
          buffered or not

          If you want to be absolutely sure that you're getting the memory that's best suited for your board,just go to their site and they'll have a list of recomended brands that they have tested to be compatible with that particular motherboard.
          note to self...

          Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....

          Primary system :
          P4 2.8 ghz,1 gig DDR pc 2700(kingston),Radeon 9700(stock clock),audigy platinum and scsi all the way...

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          • #6
            Thanks.
            BTW, is Crucial a good brand to buy ?

            Regards.
            Primary desktop:
            Dell Dimension 4100|P3-733Mhz|512MB Crucial PC133 CL3|ATI Firegl 8700 64MB|SBLIVE|3Com 3C905c|Adaptec 2906|Quantum 40G|FUJITSU 1.3G MO|Iomega 16x10x40x|MGE 480VA UPS|Philips 200P3M|XPPro
            Secondary desktop:
            Generic P3-733Mhz|512MB Crucial PC133 CL3|Matrox G400 32MB DH|SigmaTel audio(build-in)|2 x 3Com 3C9980B|Adaptec 2940UW|Quantum 15G|MGE 500VA UPS|Sony G500|W2K

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            • #7
              joelau, Crucial is considered amoung the best you can buy anywhere. Their the PC133 "7E" mem ranks up there with the PC150 HSDram sold by Munchkin (Mushkin).

              Do a search here in this forum on Crucial or 7E and you will find many comments on the subject.
              "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

              "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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              • #8
                joelau, Crucial is considered amoung the best you can buy anywhere. Their the PC133 "7E" mem ranks up there with the PC150 HSDram sold by Munchkin (Mushkin).

                Do a search here in this forum on Crucial or 7E and you will find many comments on the subject.
                "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                • #9
                  Hey Mike, go read the UBB primer on how to delete posts, it can come in quite handy

                  Hope this helps

                  Paul.
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                  • #10
                    Thanks to all who helped.
                    And HAPPY NEW YEAR!

                    Regards.
                    Primary desktop:
                    Dell Dimension 4100|P3-733Mhz|512MB Crucial PC133 CL3|ATI Firegl 8700 64MB|SBLIVE|3Com 3C905c|Adaptec 2906|Quantum 40G|FUJITSU 1.3G MO|Iomega 16x10x40x|MGE 480VA UPS|Philips 200P3M|XPPro
                    Secondary desktop:
                    Generic P3-733Mhz|512MB Crucial PC133 CL3|Matrox G400 32MB DH|SigmaTel audio(build-in)|2 x 3Com 3C9980B|Adaptec 2940UW|Quantum 15G|MGE 500VA UPS|Sony G500|W2K

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                    • #11
                      UBB won't fix packet loss I've been experiencing lately. I've tried several times to delete this puppy and ended giving up on it.
                      "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                      "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                      • #12
                        I just went through this exercise. I can't seem to resist a free shipping deal these days.

                        http://www.crucial.com/index.asp?imodule=CT16M64S4D7E

                        Part No: CT16M64S4D7E
                        Price: 77.39
                        Description: 128MB, 168-pin DIMM.
                        Upgrade for: UNSPECIFIED

                        Line total: 77.39


                        Line Item Subtotal: $77.39
                        Freight Charges : $0.00

                        Order Subtotal : $77.39 + applicable shipping and tax

                        Paul
                        paulcs@flashcom.net

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                        • #13
                          Here's Crucial's take on memory timings, "Memory modules 101: The basics":

                          http://www.crucial.com/Crucial/pvtco...pe=SDRAM,PC133

                          Paul
                          paulcs@flashcom.net

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                          • #14
                            Lets see if that works Jord...
                            "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                            "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                            • #15
                              Yes that works just dandy
                              "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                              "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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