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**Guru** · 30 March 2001, 00:42

Usualy I do os-sp1-4in1-vbrun-Graphics-Sound-dx-other(nic,modem etc)!

EDIT Forgot sp1
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**Paddy** · 30 March 2001, 00:49

Cheers man, thats exactly what i do...

**ayoub_ibrahim** · 30 March 2001, 00:56

here's the suggested order:
Install Windows
Install latest VIA 4in1 service pack
Install latest VIA USB filter driver
Install latest DirectX and latest patches
Install latest video drivers
Install latest sound card drivers
Install other latest drivers, e.g. joystick, graphics tablet, etc
Install applications

**Paddy** · 30 March 2001, 02:59

Cheers Ayoub (your posts are clocking up quickly!) though I thought that the USB patch was for Win95 only?

**Pace** · 30 March 2001, 03:32

For maximum stability it's well known that you have to start with a bloat free OS - namely DOS. Once that's installed, you can start upgrading - DOS, Win3.1, Win95, Win98, Win98SE.

For each OS in turn, you should install (in this order): (items where applicable to OS)

Programs (coz that's the most important thing, duh!)
VIA 4in1
DirectX 8 (then use hack to uninstall)
DirectX 7 (then use hack to uninstall)
VIA 4in1
DirectX 6 (then use hack to uninstall)
DirectX 5
VIA 4in1
Beta (these are what Microsoft use internally - they must be the best!) drivers of everything
VIA 4in1
Windows service packs
VIA 4in1
VIA 4in1
Then, uninstall everything to clear the registry, while preparing nicely for next OS.

(At this point, you could also fire 'File Manager' and delete all those empty files (the ones that have no logo or the 'windows' logo))
Then install the next OS.

If you can, try and find different VIA 4in1's - take the biggest file (and hence the best one) and make copies of it over the other small files, renaming it as necessary.

Once you have finished all OSes, remember to do the empty file deletion. These are often 'application extensions' - which are not required for normal usage. You can safely delete these.

Then, the final performance tweaks can be done in 'regedit'. Simply click and delete everything you don't recognise - it's just some litter left during a windows install.

And, the ever useful security precaution! System backup Put a bootable (but otherwise blank) floppy disk in the drive and reboot. When prompted, type 'format c:'

Congrats, you now have the most bug free OS known to Bill himself

And it's now time for Jord to stick this in the FAQs...

P.

**Gurm** · 30 March 2001, 05:11

Pace, that is the most godawfully stupid thing I've ever read, I HOPE you were being funny.

My advice:

1. Win2k SP1 (I built a cd for this purpose, hehe!)
2. Matrox Drivers
3. Service Pack 2 (I know, it's not final... but it fixes a LOT of stuff...)
4. Office XP (not released? hmm... it will be soon)
5. All the patches at "windows update"
6. Via's 4-in-1 4.29a
7. Drivers and whatnot

I don't recommend installing Live!ware at all, since IMHO you should just get the Hercules card (it's what I'm doing this week)!

- Gurm

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**ayoub_ibrahim** · 30 March 2001, 05:21

Gurm, I think Paddy wants opinions on install order for win98se not win2k!

**SCompRacer** · 30 March 2001, 05:46

ayoub_ibrahim has pretty much got it. Only thing I do different is load the G400 drivers right after the VIA's cause I like a nice display ASAP in Win98 or Win2000.

Especially in Win2000 though....gotta get rid of that awful refresh rate.

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**Paddy** · 30 March 2001, 05:50

er.... thanks Pace?

Gurm: Cheers man, but as Ayoub said, I am putting 98se on as a dual boot.

I have never had any major problems changing OS's and when Win2K first came out (and I had too much time on my hands) I did it every other week...

I prefer 2K hands down over 98 but all I seem to be using lately is Office and playing games...

I don't know....I need to install something as this installation is falling apart...I just don't think that I could go back to 98...argh

Still I don't want to do anything until my dissertation is complete and printed off. There is no point in tempting fate is there!

now where did i put that Red Hat...

**xortam** · 30 March 2001, 10:39

Pace, you're getting close to a clean system but you forgot to do a low level format of your boot drive to wipe that nasty bootstrap. You may optionally want to yank all the BIOS chips to get that fresh scrubbed hardware feeling. Now that's clean!

**Pace** · 30 March 2001, 12:22

Funny you should mention that xortam, as I was just reading on the Register (or was it Tom's HW?) about a new cleaning agent has been found in Cola again! All you have to do is mix it with something acidic (such as vinegar), and you'll put a brilliant shine on every piece of hardware you own. Hydrochloric acid is entirely optional.

And of course, that power supply can be problematic - there's a whole lot of electricity in there, so get at it with a screwdriver and some of that cleaning agent! If you let the school bully do it all the better for you (as it's a little dangerous).

Another option is leaving the power on whilst doing this (it helps the 'burn-in' period go faster).

Kiddies: Don't try this at home - you'll fry the balls of anything in the near vicinity, including your PC, and most of the flammable stuff around it. Oh yea, and you'll get the biggest shock of your life, knocking unconcious and all the way to Pokemon heaven. Nice knowing you

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