New beta Abit bios to fix via 686b timing bug

[SCompRacer]

Some of the ASUS forums are starting to whine about ASUS not having one out yet.

As far as VIA goes, all I wanted was an alternative to Intel. With the increase in their chip sales, one would expect things to eventually get better over there.

My new board is half VIA and half AMD. Can anyone bash the AMD-761 North Bridge chipset too?

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ASUS A7M266, 1333MHz/266FSB, 256MB Crucial PC2100 DDR, Two RAID 0's, Win2000/Win98SE

[ALBPM]

Hey SComp, try something for me....

Run some benchmark in 1X AGP and then 2X AGP and see if there is a difference in scores.
I'm curious as to what the difference is in those modes.

Thanks, Paul

[The PIT]

As long as the amd solution is mated to via 686b southbridge yes.
Creative have released a new driver for the live cards so that maybe the fix.

[Technoid]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by The PIT:
Technoid. If you don't belief theres a problem take a look at old viahardware forums. It's full of people having the same problem.</font>

Yes, there'e a lot of people that have problems there.

And all of those problems are cureable without hardware exhanges.

I used to hate VIA because i had an old MVP3 mainboard.

But after more than a half a year building Duron & Athlon computers around Via chipset motherboards cured that.

I have assembled over 50 computers with Via motherboards and a lot of them has SBLive cards (because we got a very sweet deal on them once and bought in a lot of them) and none of them has ever shown any stability problems or problems with any add in card or any coruption problems.

As the popularity of Athlon cpu's grow more people has to use either AMD or via motherboards hence it seems like there is only VIA motherboards that has problems.

Go back in time to the time vere the bx boards vere in majority and count the reported problems and it will look like the bx platform vas even more plagued than VIA's

People that don't realy know how to configure their computer will always have problems vith their computers whatever chipset their mainbords utilise.

Hawe to bail, will continue to anoy VIA haters later!

[Technoid]

To end a meningles soon to be flame war!

1. I wish all people good luck with bios uppdates, etc, etc

2. I unowingly did exectly as i shouldent when i copied 19bg of data when swaping hdd's and despite having both a via 686b and a sblive nothing happened.

3. I will do as wkulecz suggested : dont care wathever.

4. Connor was right, there can be only one

5. My I815 mb works as flawles as my KT133a and the only differens was 2 restarts compared to 1 .

[SCompRacer]

Paul,

3D MARK2000, at AGP X2, 3350. AGP X1, 3350. Thats at stock clock settings, no O/C at all. G400 MAX not O/C either.

[This message has been edited by SCompRacer (edited 20 April 2001).]

[cbman]

Hey Paul

Why did you ask for the 1X -> 2X comparison?

Something we should know?



Charles

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Canadian... Hell Ya!!!

[ALBPM]

Thanks SComp!!!! No change.....

Not trying to start a Flame war here, just curious about something.

Does anyone else have a newer AMD system and a Graphics Card that supports 4X AGP?????

If so, could you run 3DMark2000 or whatever benchmark in 1X, 2X and 4X and post your results.

I'm not an AMD Hater, just curious about some things I've noticed lately.

Paul

[Technoid]

If any one that does'nt dislikes via feels targeted then i apologies.

It's just that my duron and my via mobo works so great that i have to defend them somewhat.

I was (and am) as defensive about my I815 mainboard when it tok some flak compared to overklocked BX boards.

ALBPM:

What I meant was that every time i goes against the flow and dont condemn VIA every one seems to think that I am out to cause trouble.



[This message has been edited by Technoid (edited 20 April 2001).]

[ALBPM]

No problem Technoid...

I'm just curious about AGP implimentation on motherboards with VIA chipsets.
There is no difference between 1X and 2X AGP on all the systems people have checked for me. I'm wondering if there is an increase at 4X or if that will give the same results as 1X and 2X as well....????

Paul

[SCompRacer]

Yeah Paul, why did you have me do that?

Got some sleep finally and was thinking about it. Reminded me of that older brother thing, you know, where they would get me to do something, and I would trustingly comply and suffer some unforseen consequences afterward...

[ALBPM]

Cause I knew you weren't all wrapped up in the AMD/Intel bashing stuff and would do it out of curiosity (A True MURC Brother)

I didn't say "Little brother".....LOL

This isn't an Intel vs AMD thing. I'm curious why the AGP slot on Via based Motherboards is giving the same results at different settings.

Paul

[Wombat]

BIOS's aren't the only solution. I'm using a software driver. I found it a week ago, and it's been fantastic. My computer stopped rebooting when I would try to burn a CD. I'll send it if you want.
ICQ: 5346597

[Indiana]

Hmmm, I seem to remember having seen benches on Intel platforms with only marginal differences between AGP1x and AGP2x and absolutely no real difference between 2x and 4x as well, so what's all the fuzz you're trying to start here?
Anyone with an Intel please provide the benchmarks so we can get this right.

[Rags]

The fuzz is that VIA's claims of AGP 2X, 4X, or even 1X is suspect. Every other board with an intel chipset does show a difference (albeit relatively small). Let's do some deductive reasoning.

Rags



[This message has been edited by Rags (edited 21 April 2001).]