My G400 vs a Xentor UltraTNT2

[SteveC]

Last night I pitted the mighty forces of Matrox against Maxi Gamer and came out victorious!
Well, you'll be pleased to know that my UTNT2 owner friend is now jealous... :-)
His amazing UTNT2 that he has not shut up about was beaten in every test by my lowly G400 at MAX speeds.
Although I am on a PII @ 515, and he's on a celery @ 450, but still. Even my OpenGL Quake2 scores beat all his, apart from a close draw in the crusher demo at 1024x768. My 3dMark99MAX thrashed his at 1024x768x32x16Z, by around 500 marks....
And the colour vibrancy (is that a word?) was Soooooo much better on my g400 than his tacky card.
I have to admit though that I was using slightly newer drivers than 5.13.

Just thought you'd like to know...

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Cheers,
Steve
It's Only A Graphics Card!
(But a damn good 'un!)

[Markus Selchow]

Good one, Stevie

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Cheers,
Maggi

Asus P2B-S @ 112MHz FSB * Celeron300A @ 504MHz
Heavily boosted by the Millenium G400 32MB SGRAM DualHead

[merchant2]

steve what are yopu useing to oc your 400 and what would you recomenend as a safe starting speed. to try.

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Waiting for g400 to show up, while i go slowly insane. I don't have a warped mind do i?

noel

[SteveC]

I'm using Powerstrip - start at 170Mhz, and slowly work upwards. Some cards will not get any higher than 178Mhz, some go past 200 (like mine!).

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Cheers,
Steve
It's Only A Graphics Card!
(But a damn good 'un!)

[merchant2]

ok got it now. here's some install questions.

do you install powerstrip after pd5.13 of before or do you use powerstrip instead of pd5.13 and just use the drivers from matrox.

last time i used powerstrip was an oem version that came with a (hate to admitit virge gx2)

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Waiting for g400 to show up, while i go slowly insane. I don't have a warped mind do i?

noel

[smile]

Steve:

Don't get me wrong, I don't own eith chipset yet!

But a couple of problem

1. p2-515 is a quite a bit faster then Celery 450!! so it is not really fair or comp

2. since you oc your G400max to the max, did your frind oc his ultra tnt2 also, what about running both at default speed?

[Markus Selchow]

Hi smile !

1. My Celeron300A @ 504MHz is faster than Steve's PII 333 @ 515MHz

2. I thought the TNTU2 is an oc'ed TNT2 by default ...

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Cheers,
Maggi

Asus P2B-S @ 112MHz FSB * Celeron300A @ 504MHz
Heavily boosted by the Millenium G400 32MB SGRAM DualHead

[mragsdale]

My celery at 464 and at 504 beats my friends p2 oc'd to 515 in pretty much everything that I throw at it.
Matt

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Yes, I am serious and don't call me Shirley

[SteveC]

merchant2 - you install PD5.13 first, then install PStrip.

smile - My G400 is a standard one, OCed to MAX settings. His was a UltraTNT.. so at least with the cards, it's a fair test. Other than our CPU speeds, we both have 128mb, and both on win98.

I have no idea how Maggi's celery is faster than my PII, but it's interesting food for thought.

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Cheers,
Steve
It's Only A Graphics Card!
(But a damn good 'un!)


[This message has been edited by SteveC (edited 07-08-99).]

[LAMFDTK]

Silly Post Steve!
Markus why is your Celery faster than the PII ???

Trainwrecker Computer Addicts

[merchant2]

the p2 on board L2 catch is set to half the cpu speed

the Celeron on chip L2 catch runs at the full cpu speed. witch is why cleron numbers are faster than p2 (untill a program needs to use the larger l2 catch of the p2 that is. intel should be changeing the p2/3 catch to on die full speed in the next gen of chips (copermine and the 133 bus p3's.

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Waiting for g400 to show up, while i go slowly insane. I don't have a warped mind do i?

noel

[Opus]

Ahh but don't forget the FP performance of the celery...

Cheers
Opus
(a slighty jealous PII owner...)

[Jorden]

Humm Noel, the cache on my PIII is running at the same speed as the CPU (450 MHz)...

They might've caught on allready

Jorden.

Ah and P.S: What they might want to change is the meagre amount of cache on the CPU... 512k isn't much...

[This message has been edited by Jorden (edited 07-08-99).]

[Markus Selchow]

Yes ... I beat Steve's system in almost any benchmark

Except for those that exceed my L2 cache, from there on it gets interesting

Btw, I'm now beyond 43 CPU Marks and passed the 2600 FPU Marks (the one from Ziff Davis)

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Cheers,
Maggi

Asus P2B-S @ 112MHz FSB * Celeron300A @ 504MHz
Heavily boosted by the Millenium G400 32MB SGRAM DualHead

[This message has been edited by Markus Selchow (edited 07-08-99).]

[rickT]

Your friend must have a badly configured system or isnt using the latest OpenGL drivers. I have a 16mb Xentor clocked at 170/195 and I score in the upper 70's in the timedemo's, mid 60's for massive and low 40's for crusher. My cpu is a celery 400@450

As for 3dmark, that program gives scores based on cpu speed. It is not very accurate measurment of actual game speeds like timedemo's are.