PD5.13/G200 3DMark MAX results

[DrMordrid]

Here are some of my 3DMark MAX results for the Marvel G200-TV with the new PowerDesk 5.13.020 & OpenGL ICD.

The resolution tested was 640x480 @16 bit. Yell if you like but I limited the test to this resolution so anyone who wants to compare can do so with the Shareware version of 3DMark MAX and not have to register it.

Be warned though that 3DMark MAX is an 18 meg download ;-)

Neither the machine or the Marvel is overclocked. The setup is a BH6, P-II/400, 256 megs PC-100, Marvel w/8megs. Here goes:

2792 3DMarks

3537 CPU 3DMarks

891 RasterMarks

Game1 (Race) : 32.8 fps

Game2 (First person) : 28.1 fps

Fill Rate: 78.1 MTexels/s

Fill Rate w/Multi Textures: 77.9 MTexels/s

2 MB texture render speed: 186.0 fps

8 MB texture render speed: 102.3 fps

32 MB texture render speed: 52.2 fps

Bump Mapping Emboss - 3 passes: 66.1 fps

Dr. Mordrid

[coolroy]

matrox mill 8mb sgram, celery 300 @ 464mhz
192mb ram g200o/c to 90mhz very stable,live value on abit bh6

@ 640*480*16bit
2320 3dmarks
6311 cpu 3dmarks
956 rastermarks
game1 race= 43.4fps
game2 race= 33.9fps
fill rate= 75.3 mtexels/s
fill rate w/multi tex= 76 mtexels/s
2mb tex render= 223.6 fps
8mb tex render= 124.5 fps
32mb tex render= 78.5 fps

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coolroy

[Scytale]

With VSync enabled I get the following results (BH6 P2@4x112):

Project Settings (Template):
Rendering Platform: Internal (Matrox Millennium G200 AGP - English)
Resolution: 640*480
Color Depth: 16-bit Color
CPU Optimization: Intel(r) processor
Z-Buffer: 16-bit
Frame Buffer: Triple buffering
Refresh Rate: 84 Hz
Looping: Disabled
Texture Format: 16-bit, 4444 RGBA
Run Tests: Once
Title Screen: Shown

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 3,406 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 4,142 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 1,096 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 37.6 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 31.1 FPS
Fill Rate : 89.0 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 89.3 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 279.3 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 228.6 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 133.9 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 94.4 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 2.7 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 78.9 FPS
...

[Markus Selchow]

Nice scores

DrMordrid & Coolroy:

Just for the record .. you forgot the 4 & 16MB texture rendering test - could you please update ? Thanx !

Coolroy:

You seem to have a twistedt number in the cpu 3dmarks ... 6311 should be more like 3611, right ?

Scytale:

You have a dramatic drop in 32MB texture rendering ... this indicates that your Graphics Aperture Size is set too low to address 32MB texture memory ... raise it one notch and let it fly



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Cheers,
Maggi

Asus P2B-S @ 112MHz FSB * Celeron300A @ 504MHz
Heavily boosted by the Millenium G400 32MB SGRAM DualHead

[This message has been edited by Markus Selchow (edited 07-06-99).]

[Himself]

I don't own a G200, but just for the sake of comparison here are some TNT 1 numbers.

(Note, the G200 doesn't do multitexturing if I recall, so you can take that into account, I am also quoting 800x600x16 numbers (The PD version does this, BTW) on a K6-2 350 (112x3.5) so that's another factor) I think it's a good indication that another video card is in order for you Intel folks.

I feel kind of retro, here, I've used 3dmark99max for several months now.

3DMark Project:
3DMark Build Version: 200
Date: 7/4/99
Time: 3:11:15 PM
Project Name:My Project
Comments:

Project Settings (Template):
Rendering Platform: Internal (Graphics Blaster RIVA TNT (BETA))
Resolution: 800*600
Color Depth: 16-bit Color
CPU Optimization: AMD 3DNow!(tm)
Z-Buffer: 16-bit
Frame Buffer: Triple buffering
Refresh Rate: 84 Hz
Looping: Disabled
Texture Format: 16-bit, 4444 RGBA
Run Tests: Once
Title Screen: Shown

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 2,873 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 5,363 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 1,572 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 33.8 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 25.0 FPS
Fill Rate : 155.9 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 169.5 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 209.6 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 147.1 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 93.2 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 48.4 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 25.6 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 63.0 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 74.5 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 111.3 FPS

System:
Windows Version: Windows 4 B, Build 1212
DirectX Version: 4.07.00.0166
Bios Version: Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Bios Date: 03/31/99
Total Physical Memory: 127 MB
Free Physical Memory: 93 MB

Processor:
Processor Type: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
Processor Speed: 392 MHz
Processor Caps: MMX 3DNOW
L1 Cache Size: 64 KB
L2 Cache Size: None

Desktop:
2D Display Adapter Name: Graphics Blaster RIVA TNT (BETA)
2D Display Adapter Driver Date: 7- 1-1999
Monitor Name: CTX 1451
Monitor Driver Date: 8-24-1996
Desktop Resolution: 1152*864
Desktop Color Depth: 16-Bit Color

3D Accelerator:
Name: Graphics Blaster RIVA TNT (BETA)
Driver Name: 3DBT2D32.DLL
Driver Version: 4.11.01.2103
Total Video Memory On Card: 16,090 KB
Total Texture Memory: 46,914 KB
Bus: AGP

[carlmeister]

Here are some results with my G400 single OEM guys, AGP apeture 64 meg, v-synch off :

Rendering Platform Matrox Millennium G400 - English
Resolution 800*600
Color Depth 16-bit Color
Frame Buffer Triple buffering
Refresh Rate VSync Off
CPU Optimization AMD 3DNow!(tm)
3DMark Result 3003.02 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed 6082.17 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score 2127.79 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race 35.14 FPS
Game 2 - First Person 26.22 FPS
Fill Rate 206.72 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing 208.17 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed 300.08 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed 233.44 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed 160.47 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed 119.27 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed 72.90 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass 86.11 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass 109.90 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass 178.65 FPS

Processor Type AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
Processor Speed 450 MHz
L1 Cache size 64 KB
L2 Cache size None


Physical Memory 256 MB


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[Scytale]

Thanks for your comment Maggi. I upped my aperture from 64MB to 128MB. This used to have a negative impact on overall 3D performance, but not with PD5. All scores are about the same as before but:

32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 74.6 FPS

Maggi, any comment on carlmeister's G400 score? Seems a tad low to me (even at 800x600).

[Markus Selchow]

Hi Scytale !

Now it runs

Carlmeisters scores seem pretty ok ... it's an AMD-CPU and he used 800x600 ...

What puzzles me is the fact that he doesn't have a L2-cache !?!?!?!

I thought any CPU nowadays had one ...

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Cheers,
Maggi

Asus P2B-S @ 112MHz FSB * Celeron300A @ 504MHz
Heavily boosted by the Millenium G400 32MB SGRAM DualHead

[SteveC]

Himself's system also says that there's no level two cache... Must be something wrong with 3dmark99 max' detection routine that's all. I would hope!

Oh, and Maggi - on the K6-2's the L2 cache is on the mobo, not the CPU.

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Cheers,
Steve
It's Only A Graphics Card!
(But a damn good 'un!)

[This message has been edited by SteveC (edited 07-07-99).]

[coolroy]

re cpu 3dmarks = 6311 , thats correct.
same result when re tested.
Please note if 32mb texture render speed test ran with m/b bios setting less than 128mb for agp then results as low as 2-3 fps result.

[carlmeister]

Yes, I think it is a bug in 3Dmarks detection routine. My mobo has 1 meg of L2 which is currently enabled. 800 x 600 at 16 bit is the max res that the shareware version will do. With the low scores in comparision to intel, I think this benchmark may use a lot of non optimized floating point? Any comments?

[LAMFDTK]

What ever happened to the 5000+ score that the G400 was going to score I have yet to see it? I also think that the 3DMark benches are a little screwie. Im getting a G400 so Im not really concerend about the 3DMark scores. I am in "Benchmark recovery", trying to use my system rather than bench it all night....

Trainwrecker_Computer_Addicts


[This message has been edited by LAMFDTK (edited 07-07-99).]

[Himself]

Carlmeister,

Even with a K6-2 266 @ 280 I was getting around 23fps in the second game test, with a K6-3 450 you are getting 26 fps, that alone suggests there is something extremely off with that test. I read something on Ace's hardware to the effect that the programmer commented on that code being rather buggy and the AMD problem was a known one, but that's hearsay.

Also, 32 Mb of local ram really helps out with the AGP texture scores, I've noticed, both with your scores and ones in reviews around the net for the G400 and other 32 MB cards. What it really means is AGP is not being used, so you'd have to up the bar again to really test AGP performance.

If the G200 with 8MB is getting 70fps at 32MB textures then something is up with that, it's doesn't really make a lot of sense.

[arbymo]

ok ok .. i know this is for the PD 5.13 .. so what ?? ;-)
some scores from a 4.51 and bios 1.6 combo here as people said that no proformance difference bet. 4.51 and 5.13 in D3D

3D makr 99 max
gigabyte 6bxe, 128 ram, 300a@450, win95 osr2
G200 SD @112.5 core and 150 memory.

Test My Project
Rendering Platform Matrox MGA-G200 AGP
Resolution 640*480
Color Depth 16-bit Color
Frame Buffer Triple buffering
CPU Optimization Intel(r) processor
Refresh Rate VSync Off
3DMark Result 3561.21 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed 4415.17 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score 1042.69 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race 39.33 FPS
Game 2 - First Person 32.53 FPS
Fill Rate 94.68 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing 94.92 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed 228.02 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed 203.53 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed 96.43 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed 57.56 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed 3.40 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass 83.00 FPS

Markus and Coolroy : i think Coolroy is using the older version of 3D Mark 99 not the max one .. so the 6311 is normal for that test .. also are the higher scores of game 1 and game 2 which are higher in 3d mark than max .. also the 3Dmarks score is low .. which is normal for the older version too.
btw. exuse my bad english

[JesTa784]

how does everyone get such a high Game1 (race) fps value? With my G400 at 800x600 16bit, i get:

game1 (race) : 27 fps
game2 (shooter) : 27.3 fps

all of my other scores match up pretty well though.