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  • #16
    Wombat,

    Your experience is good, so I am happy for you. Many others have had bad experienced. As Buuri says, the cards "work", but not in AGP mode... 8-(

    I don't call that working. And yes, if you get the latest mobo drivers, the latest BIOS, and have a little patience and luck you can get it running. But never as well as it would on an Intel board.

    - Gurm
    The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

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    If only life were as easy as you
    I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
    If only life were as easy as you
    I would still get screwed

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    • #17
      Will these new drivers enable Dual Head in NT?

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      • #18
        I don't know about ATIs but those other cards you listed will work on Asus boards (at least on ones with ALI). The AGP mode is a different thing but they work.

        I also had G100 on a lousy Lucky-Star mobo that had VIA chips. G200 didn't work when bus mastering was enabled.


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        • #19
          Kruzin, you make no sense at all.

          To quote you...

          "As far as the ICD being buggy...of course there's bugs...it a BETA! If it was in perfect shape, they'd release it."

          HELLO. They did release it - in their 5.13 drivers. It is up on their website. They have made alot of fixes since then, which im sure their current ICD is less buggy than the one in 5.13.

          As far as Jeremy goes. I happen to know him, I will ask him myself.

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          • #20
            rickT - HELLO You are confused.

            We where talking about 5.20, and you shift back to 5.13. What's your point there? They are different drivers, with a substantially different ICD. Notice the numbers? 5.13-5.20. Big jump there. If they where close to the same drivers/ICD, they would be 5.14 or 5.15. Any time you see a major jump in numbers, there's a major change in the drivers.

            5.20 has not been publicly released yet, so unless you have a source and have tried them yourself, I'd have to say you have no idea what you are talking about. Personally, I've been using these drivers for weeks, and I can tell you, at this moment, you are better off with 5.13. The beta 5.20 ICD is conciderably faster, but certainly not less buggy at this point than the current 5.13 ICD(although I get a new build every week, with some things fixed each time).

            There is no way to know what the final performance will be until the bugs are fixed, and the drivers are released. For all you or I know, fixing some of these bugs may slow it back down some. So guessing at exact performance differences is totally pointless right now.

            So is there some point to your arguments? You are guessing at numbers and spreading rumors about software you have not even seen. All I did was try to pass on some realistic first hand info, and you want to twist it into a debate. Why? Because "Jeremy said so"? Accept the info I offer, or ignore it. Even ask me to clarify something if I can, but you have no reason (or even acurate info) to argue with me about this.
            Core2 Duo E7500 2.93, Asus P5Q Pro Turbo, 4gig 1066 DDR2, 1gig Asus ENGTS250, SB X-Fi Gamer ,WD Caviar Black 1tb, Plextor PX-880SA, Dual Samsung 2494s

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            • #21
              My personal pinch of salt to this super 7 story.

              YES, I have a G200 working flawlessly on an Asus P5-A and a K6-III 420 (4x105).
              The only downtime is the AGP 1x and not 2x. It works if I force it but I don't see any speed increase, so I don't want to mess around with it for nothing.

              I've been playing with it heavily on Quake2, Rainbow 6, Need for Speed and HL-TFC for hours and it didn't lock-up more than my banshees friends even if I was using 32bits colors.

              So stop bashing super7 mobo, yes they are not as good as intels one, but don't tell everybody none will work. Actually I'm pretty sure every super7 mobo on the market right now is able to run a g200 in agp 1x without crashing and with BM on.

              Vlip

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              • #22
                Gurm,

                By AGP mode I ment that 1x works, but not always 2x. So it works as a AGP card, not like you said. ("the cards 'work', but not in AGP mode")


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                • #23
                  On my SOYO SS7 board:

                  G200 - AGP 1X
                  G400 - AGP 2X


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                  • #24
                    Ant, Ditto:

                    Epox MVP3G-M
                    G200 x1 AGP (and I couldn't give a care!!!)

                    G400 x2 AGP

                    Don't dis the Super7 crowd.

                    Bye guys

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                    Epox MVP3G-M, K6/2-450, 256 meg PC100, G400 SGRAM 32 meg single, Diamond Monster 3DII 8meg SLI, Ensoniq Audio PCI, WD 6.4 HD, Toshiba 32x, Toshiba 12x SCSI, Diamond Fireport 20, Yamaha 4x6 CD writer SCSI, Generic NEC2000 network card, Viewsonic E771 monitor Win95 OSR 2.1.



                    MSI K7Pro, Athlon600, 256 meg PC100, G400 SGRAM 32 meg single, Ensoniq Audio PCI, WD 13 gig HD, Plextor 40 max SCSI, Diamond Fireport 20, Yamaha 4x6 CD writer SCSI, Generic NEC2000 network card,
                    Viewsonic E771 monitor Win98 SE

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                    • #25
                      I also own an ASUS P5A Mobo.

                      I am very pleased with the performance and stability I receive with this board.

                      Here's the setup.

                      ASUS P5A
                      AMD K6-2 350MHz
                      Millennium G200 AGP
                      Rainbow Runner G-series.
                      Diamond Monster Sound
                      ActionTech Deskvoice Pro PCI 56K modem.
                      Creative Labs Dxr2 Encore DVD.

                      For video editing I use the 4.33m driver and have had no stability problems. Rock solid and I like it!

                      I have used the newer PD5.13 drivers as well and other than the fact they still need to release a new Video Tools release (No video editing, etc until the new VT 1.5x sometime in July). Powerstrip shows AGP 1X DIME. The D3D has allways had me satisfied and the current OpenGL ICD is fine for the plugins I use for Winamp.

                      The uninstall utility allows me to swap back and forth between 4.33m and PD5.13 if I need to do any editing between now and VT release (I tested this out and haven't had any trouble.)

                      As far as I understand AGP 2X is only useful for LARGE texture map transferes from system memory. Currently all the games I have seen don't fully tax AGP 1X DIME and I've got enough memory on my G200 (16meg with the addon) that I should handle all the current releases fine.

                      My next purchase will actually be a K6-3 500MHz or higher before I purchase a G400. This will yield more of a performance increase for what I use my G200 for.

                      So this SS7 user is perfectly satisfied. Sure if I was a total QUAKEHEAD (I lump all the OpenGL gamers in this LABEL so flame on buddies! ) I would have purchased a different system; BX, P-III for the currently high end FPU, and I certainly wouldn't have time to do any Video Editing.


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