3D Mark 99 MAX on G400

[agallag]

Ok, answer this then... How come my ATI Mach 8 is so frickin' slow. It's got a full 1MB, and it's even Vesa Local Bus. Geez.


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Andrew Gallagher - agallagh42@yahoo.com
Asus P2B-S, PII-350, 64MB PC100, MillG200 8MB, SBLive! Retail, Win98SE

[anid]

No, 3DMark isn't really the best for comparing cross platform - as far as the multimedia extensions supported by the CPU. It uses 3DNow or SSE optimization, depending on your processor - for games that use those extensions, it is indicative of real world performance (as much as any benchmark is). To level the playing field, that optimization would have to be disabled for all CPU's. I just find it a very handy tool for tweaking graphic performance, but even then it can be a bit misleading. For instance, with the new 5.13 drivers, my 3DMark score goes up with vsync enabled. Frame rates for the game scenes are up, but everything else (texture rendering speeds) go down. Using Tirtanium shows frame rates going down with vsync enabled. I don't have the retail of Quake, so I can't run the time demos, but my eye tells me it runs better with vsync disabled. And the reason Guyver's CPU Speed score is so high is the SSE extensions - code optimized for it will run faster than what 3DNow will do. There are a few systems posting 9000+ on the web now - check out www.pcbenchmarks.com.
Guess I might as well trow mine in...

Test 246-agp2X(1)
Rendering Platform Matrox Millennium G200 SD AGP
Resolution 800*600
Color Depth 16-bit Color
Frame Buffer Triple buffering
Refresh Rate 73 Hz
CPU Optimization AMD 3DNow!(tm)
3DMark Result 3042.84 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed 7640.52 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score 1182.18 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race 42.20 FPS
Game 2 - First Person 23.79 FPS
Fill Rate 107.01 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing 107.18 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed 172.45 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed 153.82 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed 121.24 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed 77.16 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed 45.09 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass 61.30 FPS

System: K6-3 450@504, Epox MVP3G-M mobo, 128MB CAS3 RAM, Maxtor DiamondMax 4320 10GB HDD, Matrox Mill G200 SD 16MB

I used g200clk to run it at 246MHz SClk without RAM optimization, lowered mem refresh to 55 (default with the new drivers is 63 - taking it low freaks it out quick now), and turned on PCI master read. Was happy to break 3000....

[anid]

Sorry, wanted to post the results with vsync disabled for comparative purposes....

Test 246-same v off(1)
Rendering Platform Matrox Millennium G200 SD AGP
Resolution 800*600
Color Depth 16-bit Color
Frame Buffer Triple buffering
Refresh Rate VSync Off
CPU Optimization AMD 3DNow!(tm)
3DMark Result 2992.48 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed 7564.32 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score 1191.42 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race 41.25 FPS
Game 2 - First Person 23.48 FPS
Fill Rate 107.16 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing 107.29 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed 178.55 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed 157.54 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed 124.72 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed 77.73 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed 46.90 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass 61.36 FPS

I had also disabled anistropic filtering and triple buffering, with forced AGP 2X for both tests....
And Steve, from what I understood, the 3DMark score is calculated from the average of the 2 game scenes - i.e., the rendering speeds are not a factor. My 2 test results would seem to back this, but I am not sure what the exact calculation is.

[Zyn]

Just thought I'd blast your sorry ass scores away.

I dont really feel like writing all that shit out so here it is.
p3-600 4.5x133, 128ram, g400max retail (not overclocked) 5.13 drivers

1024x768x16 16-Z TripleBuffer

3dmark = 5645

Yes, Im proud of this baby =)

[Maggi]

Hi Zyn,

you should be proud of your CPU, because THAT one gives you that high score ...

post your details, you can copy'n'paste them from the results viewer.


THEN we will see whos scores will be the low down

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Cheers,
Maggi

Asus P2B-S @ 112MHz FSB - Bios 1009 final
Celeron300A @ 504Mhz
128MB 7ns SDRAM
G400 DualHead 32MB SGRAM @ 201 MHz memory clock

I'll be on holiday for the coming three weeks and I miss you folks already ;-)

[Spider]

OK ! Here is mine :

1024x760x16=4764
1024x760x32=4446

PIII450@465 fsb103,P2B,128mb,Matrox MILL-G400 32mb