5.13 and SS7 woes

[art]

Random lockups, lots of em. Just reverted to 4.51 to stabilize. A few things I dont understand tho:

Every release of drivers eats up 5-10% of the previous performance level. 4.33 was the best, and it DOESNT have the 3D Now! support.

Mill G200 SD AGP not recognized by 4.51? This is what I've read, but this is what I'm using, and no probs whatsoever. Mine is a OEM version from a COMPAQ machine.

Any thoughts, ideas, donuts?



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K6-2 350@400,FIC-503+ 1.1a,Mill G200 AGP 16 meg SDRAM, bios 2.3, driver 4.51 (or 4.33c),64 meg RAM

[billko]

I was unable to use 5.13 on my MVP3 based AOpen AX59 Pro board until I updated to the latest AGP driver (3.52).

Bill

[The PIT]

Art do you mean that the 4.33 were best for eating performance or best for performance.
Personally I found the 4.33 considerbly slower and were swiftly removed.

[anid]

Myself... seems more like performance has gone up 5 - 10% with every driver release. 5.13 has made a huge dif on my system. Yes, I am running a SS7 system with MVP3 set. I'm using an SD myself, I couldn't run the PowerDesk set-up, but I could install the 4.51 drivers through the Device Manager "update driver" routine. Steve had a possible brainwave and modified the .inf file to include the SD device id so it would install through the PowerDesk set-up. Worked like a charm.

[rhokanson]

Well the first thing I would do would upgrade
the Bio's on the motherboard,then go to Via's
website and download the latest drivers which
I believe are the new 4-in-1 drivers then
follow the uninstall to the tea for any previous powerdesk or reformat and start from
scratch.The 5.13 are not perfect,you'll never
see perfect drivers, but they gave me a noticeable increase when playing games.When I
start over with a reformatt I install the Via
drivers first then DirectX 6.1 then powerdesk
5.13 then the other drivers.I'm sure everyone
has there own way of doin it but this way works for me.Hope this helps alittle Good Luck.

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fic 503+ 1.2a amd k6-2 350@452
64mb pc100 samsung gh 6ns cas2
G200 mill.maxtor 8.4gb Yamaha sound card

[art]

It just so happens, I just did a reformat today, so I will try 5.13 again.. It's been over a year, and things have been awful flaky as of late. Might have been just time for a redo. Thanks, and will keep you all posted.

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K6-2 350@400,FIC-503+ 1.1a,Mill G200 AGP 16 meg SDRAM, bios 2.3, driver 4.51 (or 4.33c),64 meg RAM

[DentyC]

You guys who have got PD 5.13 to work, let me just say I would like to KILL YOU ALL. It must be something in my machine that it doesn't like. But it just does not work. By the way I'm not that interested in making it work unless it can work with all my peripherals installed. Oh I have tried to install it as the first video card drive in an absoultely fresh install. Repartitioned the HD. Let me say also that I prefer the degree of control offered by powerdesk 4.51. I like being able to turn off bus mastering. I have to do this to get 4.xx to work properly in my machine. I hope PD 5.2 is better and can run on my machine. I will NEVER again install PD 5.13 on this machine (except maybe next week when I get my 450 K6-III) although I don't expect that it will work then. Yeah, 1.2A rev MB, with 1 MB Cache. I'm actually tempted to install it again and try that reg. hack to turn off busmastering. Is there significant improvement in speed over 4.51?

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Cracker_99 :- VA503+, K6-2 300, 96 MB EDO DRAM, 10GB IBM HD, SB Live!, Millennium G200 AGP 8MB, AverMedia TV98, FPS 1000, 2 MS Sidewinder Gamepads, Aopen CRW9420 burner. To get 450 K6-III and Maxtor 7200 RPM 10 GB drive soon.

[This message has been edited by DentyC (edited 07-28-99).]

[The PIT]

You all got something in common Super socket 7.

[Whyzzi]

Uwe: Whats your secondary cache on the FIC 503+? I've got 1Meg (rather than the possible 512K) on mine...

[Uwe]

Hi Whyzzi,

I have 1 MB too. I don´t have anything overclocked (CPU / G400) and I use the default settings in the BIOS Chipset-settings, except the AGP aperture-size (128MB=complete RAM).
The mainboard bios for the VA503+ is the latest beta-bios (now some weeks old).

Bye, Uwe.

[anid]

You can disable busmastering with the 5.13 drivers, you just have to hack the registry. The key for it is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Display\0000\Settings\Engine. Change the value for "BusMastering" to "0".

[Whyzzi]

Curious. I updated my FIC 503+ (1.1a) AGP driver to the latest (3.52) and it completely screwed up the video for my Creative 3Dfx Banshee. I had to revert back to v3.3 so I could boot in normal mode. I've thought about tossing in my G400 32Meg OEM SH, but you might say that I am too chicken. Anyone have success running a G400 in 503+ (at AGP2x)?

Besides, I figure the G400 would perform alot better in my ABIT Celery 300A ovclk'd to 450+turbo than it would with a K6-2 300 ovrclk'd 333 (350MHz is stable, but I haven't tried since fryin' one of my 2 PC66 32Meg Memory modules @ 100MHz frontside bus).

Cheers,
Whyzzi

[rhokanson]

One more thing you can try is to disable
write to cache pipeline if you haven't
already done that.

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FIC 503+ 1.2a AMD k6-2 350@452
64mb pc100 Samsung gh 6ns cas2
G200 Mill.8mb.sgram.Maxtor 8.4gb Yamaha sound

[Uwe]

Hi Whyzzi,

I have a FIC VA503+ (1.1a) with a AMD K6-2-300 MHz and here the G400 works fine with AGP2x. I´m using the latest Matrox drivers and the VIA-AGP driver 3.52 in Turbo-Mode.

Bye, Uwe.

[billko]

The PIT:

You're just envious because the K6-III performs better than a Pentium III in some areas, and nearly as well in others, and we didn't have to pay an arm and a leg for the performance.

Bill

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