Looks like Athlons for everyone...

[BenM]

Or more correctly, if you want an AGP 4x M/B then you'll need an Athlon AGP 4x M/B.

Intel's i820 (Camino) chipset has problems when running Universal AGP4x boards (like the G400, S3...). Here's the link:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/990823-000003.html

[The PIT2]

Has the mighty Intel ****ed up??
Has the mighty Intel grown so big that it's now got the turning circle of the QE2?

[Agent31]

No, I think they're concentrating on the chip that comes after merced... which will be next year some time.

[Maggi]

hmmm ... I'm not really sure, but I guess that Intel still has something in their backhands.

They already announced Celeries with SSE (that would basically be a P3-Xeon with 128KB L2 cache @ full core speed & 100MHz FSB ...) and who knows what they have in their labs.

Don't get me wrong, I certainly wish & hope that AMD will kick their butt this time !

What about the FSB of 200MHz ... is there any actual RAM that can handle that (besides the SGRAM on the G400s, of course) ?


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Cheerio,
Maggi

Asus P2B-S @ 112MHz FSB - Bios 1010 final
Celeron300A @ 504Mhz
128MB 7ns SDRAM
G400 DualHead 32MB SGRAM @ 201 MHz memory clock

[Agent31]

Besides... do you know of any games that actually perform better on an AGP bus?

[Maggi]

Unreal ...

and every other game that uses more textures than free memory available on the gfx card.

for example a resolution of 1920x1440x32bpp
uses ~10MB gfx RAM per buffer, that means ~30MB when using triple buffering and leaves only ~2MB for textures ...

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Cheerio,
Maggi

Asus P2B-S @ 112MHz FSB - Bios 1010 final
Celeron300A @ 504Mhz
128MB 7ns SDRAM
G400 DualHead 32MB SGRAM @ 201 MHz memory clock

[BenM]

>Besides... do you know of any games that actually perform better on an AGP bus?

Yes. Games that use AGP texturing.

But that's not really the point - the G400s scale well, but I won't buy a new processor/MB until motherboards that support AGP 4x come out (I like futureproofing as much as possible - we all know it's very hard to do)

If my fantastic, two-month old G400 won't work with my brand-spaking-new Camino MB I would not be impressed.

I've never been a big fan of AMD in the past - too many compatability and speed issues, but those days seem to be behind us now, and to me it looks like Intel has dropped the ball now and they are the ones having a little trouble with speed and compatability.


If that sentence was too long, I apologise. ;-)


BTW: I got my G400 32Mb DH this week. Yeah Baby!

[smile]

WOW 1920x1440

superman glass

I try to play game at1600x1200 once on my 21 Viewsonic monitor, stuff is kind of small, kind of hard to see!

Everybody upgrade to Sony 51 monior please!