I think I found a real reason for Q3demo1 slowdowns

[MM]

Never did I see an "increase in OpenGL promise" Only an "increase in Quake2 OpenGL promise". And it's very much there indeed. The benchmarks I saw regarding Q3 of 5.21 were saying that unlike Q2, Q3 is not affected by the 5.21 as far as performance goes.



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P2c-300a/450, 192MB PC125 SDRAM, Quantum Fireball Plus KA 18.2GB 7200rpm, Panasonic 7502B x4/x8 Ultra SCSI CD-R, Tekram DC-390U2W Ultra2Wide SCSI controller, Diamond MX300 (Vortex2), Creative Labs AWE64 Gold Sound Blaster, A-Trend Voodoo II 12MB, Matrox Millennium G400Max, 19" Hitachi SuperScan 752 and some other fancy stuff

[Liquid Snake]

Hmm, these were my scores...
refresh rate was 75hz
q3demo1 - 1024x768, all on max
sync every frame on - 24.6fps
sync every frame off - 25.7fps
q3demo1 - 1024x768, same except 3/4 texture quality
sync every frame on - 31.0fps
sync every frame off - 32.9fps

q3demo2 - 1024x768, all on max
sync every frame on - 26.3fps
sync every frame off - 27.8fps

q3demo2 - 1024x768, same except 3/4 texture quality
sync every frame on - 30.9fps
sync every frame off - 32.6fps

There is a big drop in fps from 3/4 texture quality to max quality. However i didn't get the 13fps MM got. Turning off vsync does boost fps slightly. However, in Q1, my scores are still low. Vsync doesn't effect it. Is there a way to turn off vsync in Q1? And where is the performance boost that was promised? I don't see it.

P3-550
Abit BX6 Rev.2.02
256MB SDRAM
Millenium G400MAX 32MB

[MM]

This is really interesting... Your CPU is not faster than that of Z_Morris, yet somehow you get way higher results than he does. And these 13fps seem not to depend on the CPU at all - whether it's a Celeron450 or P3-550...

Can you give more details on your setup?
VSync on/off (how), AGP Size in BIOS, things like that... You have BX6-2.02, I have 2.0 but I doubt that this problem is that of 2.0 + 5.21 drivers... there is something else we all share in common and you seem not to.

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P2c-300a/450, 192MB PC125 SDRAM, Quantum Fireball Plus KA 18.2GB 7200rpm, Panasonic 7502B x4/x8 Ultra SCSI CD-R, Tekram DC-390U2W Ultra2Wide SCSI controller, Diamond MX300 (Vortex2), Creative Labs AWE64 Gold Sound Blaster, A-Trend Voodoo II 12MB, Matrox Millennium G400Max, 19" Hitachi SuperScan 752 and some other fancy stuff

[Himself]

MGATweak now does registry settings? So much for G400Tweak.

[MM]

Silly me... I was of course referring to G400 Tweak... don't know how I ended up typing MGA instead. Sorry about that.

P.S. I fixed the error in the original posting.

[This message has been edited by MM (edited 09-06-1999).]

[Himself]

Ah, well ok then. Understandable, the names are too similar. But what else would you call the thing?

I emailed Liew Khong Jye about cooperation between the two programs, but that was quite a while ago, no reply. I also emailed Matrox about getting some registry information and whether I should even bother with the program. No reply there either.

[MM]

Well, since it only deals with the registry settings, how about G400 RegTweak?

[Himself]

Actually, mine was released to the public first, how about MGA Overclocker?

[MM]

Sure... or: MGA ClockTweak and G400 RegTweak.

[Scytale]

I sorta dig 'MGATuna' and 'G400Pimp'...

[Himself]

G400Pimp? What's that about?

[Scytale]

Pimp = in control, managing stuff

It's really Billy Wilson ( http://www.voodooextreme.com/ ) lingo. Many web sites try to imitate his funk based 70s style.

Hope this helps

[Himself]

Ah. I based G400 Tweak on NV3Tweak for the Riva 128 actually, same deal, control panel, display properties extension. Could call it G400 ControlFreak, that's what NV3Tweak mutated into. I could even add some bogus hidden panel where you'd have to create a PowerUser registry key to see
it. Oh wait, Matrox already has something like that, ShowMeNothingMatrox.