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  • #1

    G200 with USB mouse -- what's going on here?

    I just got a Intellimouse Explorer. It works as both a USB or PS/2 mouse. I installed it on the USB port. It works great...

    except when I use it to drag around large windows. The windows move in very smooth slow motion about a 1/2 second behind the mouse pointer. I turned off bus mastering on my G200, and this effect was drastically reduced.

    Why? Should I reinstall it as a PS/2 mouse?

    Thanks,
    Steve
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  • #2
    Get an irq list from device manager...

    The g200 and your usb controller aren't sharing irqs, are they? Whats in PCI slot 1? Actually rundown as much hardware as you can.

    BTw, I have a usb mouse as well (some generic qtronix or something) with a g400 and no troubles.

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    • #3
      Hey Zypher. Thanks for the help. I've been fiddling w/IRQ's in the BIOS trying to solve this.

      My G200 has it's own IRQ (IRQ 12). Before I enabled USB, it was on IRQ 5. When I enabled USB, it took IRQ10 and shares it with my SBLive. IRQ10 is the only IRQ with more than one device. IRQ's 5, 6, 9 are available but I can't get anyone to take them. I wish the G200 would go back to IRQ5, but Matrox isn't letting me change any resource settings.

      But is there any reason why I want a USB mouse over a PS/2 mouse anyway? I went with USB just because it was there.

      Thanks,
      Steve

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      • #4
        Actually, you want your Matrox card on IRQ 10 or higher. You don't want it back on 5.
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        • #5
          10 or higher because? IRQ servicing priority?

          I know I can start swapping around my PCI cards to them on different IRQ's, but that's a huge pain. And my G200 is already on IRQ12.

          I think I'll just put the USB-PS/2 adapter back on the mouse cord and forget about USB for now...

          Steve

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          • #6
            Not to put too fine a point on it but...

            MOVE YOUR F***ING SBLIVE TO ANOTHER SLOT!

            You'll be glad you did.
            chuck


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            • #7
              I tried my Kensington mouse on my USB slot and it worrked ok but not prefect, I then moved it to my PS2/slot amd am much happier with it there. With Win98 and an Abit BE6 MB and don't think swapping will create any extra work becasue it changes and accomadates changes nicely.
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              • #8
                Putting your mouse back to PS/2 will probably move the G200 as IRQ12 is the default for PS2 mice.

                Try moving the SBlive, as indicated, to another slot or getting it to take IRQ5.

                The G200 should have an IRQ of 9 or higher (second controller) not due to IRQ priorities but because the way the interrupts are triggered in hardware (level vs. edge).



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                • #9
                  Steve:

                  We have similar gear. Here is how Win98 assigned IRQs on my system based on where it found what:

                  AGP Slot :16MB Matrox G200 Mystique AGPx2 IRQ #11
                  PCI Slot#1:12MB CL Voodoo2 (Doesn't use an IRQ)
                  PCI Slot#2:CL Dxr2 MPEG2 decoder card IRQ #10
                  PCI Slot#3:CL SBLive! Full IRQ #7; #9 SB Emulation
                  PCI Slot#4: not used

                  ISA Slots: not used

                  PS/2 MS Natural Elite Keyboard IRQ #1
                  PS/2 Logitech Mouseman+ mouse IRQ #12

                  3Com/USR 56k(V.90)#568602 PnP External Faxmodem (Com1)IRQ#4

                  USB HP812C printer shares IRQ#11 w/G200

                  The printer was installed later. The unused USB ports had been assigned IRQ #11 and to avoid conflicts with my Live and G200, I disabled SB Emulation hoping that USB would shift to the freed up IRQ #9 and avoid the usual printer default of #7 (used be the Live) and #11 (G200). IRQ #9 is still free but the printer doesn't bother the G200.
                  You didn't say which motherboard you use but with the Asus P2B_ (BX) boards, AGP cards must share their IRQ with an IRQ-using card in PCI Slot #1 and an IRQ-using card in PCI Slot #4 may be forced to share its IRQ with either USB, an ISA card or on-board SCSI.
                  PCI Slots #2 and #3 are best for cards that often object to sharing (sound and NICs etc) as they are the last to be asked to share IRQs. IRQ #10 and #11 are usually taken by video devices. Try PCI Slot #3 for your Live as I did.
                  I don't know what is gained by having a USB mouse or keyboard. AFAIK they won't work in DOS.

                  Happy trails,



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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the help. I'm happy to report that... I gave up!

                    I'm switched the mouse back to PS/2. After disabling USB, the G200 went back to IRQ5, but if I enabled bus-mastering, I still had the slow motion full-window drag.

                    I then removed IRQ5 from available P&P IRQ's in my BIOS, and then the G200 was assigned IRQ9. And that solved the drag problem.

                    So all is well.

                    Thanks,
                    Steve

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                    • #11
                      A USB keyboard does work in Dos, you just need to enable USB keyboard option in the bios. I use a USB keyboard and USB Kensington scroll mouse. Very rarly one will stop working but unplugging it and plugging it in fixes the problem. I went to the mouse to free up an IRQ. Now I use all IRQ's without any sharing. I thought the keyboard would free another one but the usb keyboard still uses IRQ 1


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