(Epox) MVP3 boards + G200 + PD5.30: Disable busmastering will solve crashes

[rylan]

Anyone know how to tell which MVP3 chip revision is on the motherboard w/o having to open the case (since I'm kinda lazy :P)
I have the SiSoft Sandra Pro, but am not sure which rev the chip is since it just lits a few serial numbers and stuff for the Via MVP3 chipset. Or anyone know of another program that will tell me this info?
Thanks

[mynx]

I have Scsi, Nic, audio, UDMA/DMA all working fine on my VIA system. My AGP is 1X, but completely stable so I don't mess with it. I run 24/7 for weeks without any problems. When I do have them, A reboot takes care of it. Except for PD5.3 which give BSOD whenever hardware acc. is used.
So I'm back at 5.25


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[DuRaNgO]

rylan, check your mobo book
jim

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[Wombat]

rylan,
I'm not positive, but I think that you might see the chipset revision during boot. See if there is a CD or CE buried in that rather long serial number string that is at the bottom of the screen when the memory is being checked during boot.

-Wombat

[EchoWars]

Disabling Busmastering IS NOT an option! My Epox board ran peachy until 5.30 drivers came around. Only solution here is to go back to 5.25 until Matrox figures out what they fubar'ed.

This kinda falls under the catagory of 'Woops! We broke it! What did we do last?' I would be a lot more inclined to point the finger at VIA or AMD if the previous PwrDsk drivers had not worked so well. As it now stands, I think the SS7 platform is just a scapegoat for poorly written drivers.

[Rags]

It's kind of weird, isn't it, that every time we get more powerful drivers that push memory/cpu limits on a system, SS7 systems have a hard time with them??? Same thing with PD 4.51....Sorry, I would rather that they continue to push the performance envelope, than to neuter the drivers to make them work on less stable systems. You know, if there are previous versions that work, then use those versions.

Rags

[Himself]

1. It should say in your motherboard manual what slots are busmastering, the 2 closest to AGP slot is surely dependent on your motherboard. If you have 3 PCI slots with the third one a shared slot of ISA then it won't be busmastering, but that isn't likely to apply to boards with 5 PCI slots.

2. I've had the same SS7 motherboard for almost 18 months now, never had any hardware problems with AGP, busmastering etc. Any paticular board has to potential to be of a bad batch, doesn't matter if it's SS7 of Slot 1 or Slot A. SS7 users have to do more work to install drivers, hence there are more complaints when they don't RTFM.

3. No problems with the 5.30 drivers here, in fact a supposed problem with busmastering and tirtanium got fixed. Sometimes it really is a driver bug.

[Meek]

Himlelf, are you really running a G200 on a VIA chipset board with 5.3 drivers? You'd be the first one I know who has succeeded.

(You did not post your system specs...)

---Addendum... well I see that some of you really seem to be able to use 5.3, VIA and G200 at the same time, which seems a bit weird, considering so many are suffering from the BSODs immediately when entering 3d.

There must be a hidden variable somewhere...

M.

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[This message has been edited by Meek (edited 14 October 1999).]

[rylan]

Heheh.. check mobo manual. Don't I feel stupid now. My VIA Chipset is VT82C598, which I'm guessing is rev. C
As for busmastering, I've moved my cards around to differant slots (except PCI1 next to the agp card.. I'll try that soon) and they all apparently support busmastering.
Epox MVP3G-M rev 1.0 incase anyone is wondering. Thought this may be helpful to someone at come point.

[Randy Simons]

Rev C? You mean CC? AFAIK that was never on a retail mainboard, and surely not on the MVP3G-M. That one is newer than the MVP3E-M which I have and even my old MVP3E-M had the CD revision.
As for that busmastering, afaik all PCI2.1 compatible slots require busmastering. Well, at least my SCSI card does and it doesn't matter where I plug it in.

[rylan]

Yeah, guess that wasn't it. I got the MVP3 serial number from SiSoft Sandra Pro, and it matches wit that at boot, so here it is (the model info part anyway).

2A5LEPADC-00

What is this, a rev DC?

[DuRaNgO]

Im think you'd be better off opening up the case
jim

[Himself]

Meek,

My machine specs are on my homepage, listed in my profile. I have a G400 though. Shouldn't matter when it comes to the drivers working or not since they both use the same archive but it could be G200 specific, no idea. I've had a Riva 128, TNT 1, some misc cards I tested for other people in the thing, and the G400 I have now, now hassles at all, other than Windows being a pain. I've had a K6 200 @ 233, K6-2 266 @ 280, K6-2 350 @ 392, and now a K6-3 400 @ 448 in the same motherboard. Of course it would probably have been cheaper to go with a Celeron and a slot 1 motherboard, but each cpu paid for the next one up to around 50% aprox so no biggy.

[mynx]

I just installed my new G400 32mb DH (not max) and the 5.30 drivers. No more lockups. The problem is G200 specific. AGP is at X2 now also.

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