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  • #31
    why exactly is this whole changing of interrupts important? I mean, does it make THAT much difference?
    YES!!!!

    What is a 'hardware interupt'? Think of it this way... theres your PC, with all these parts doing all kinds of different things, all at the same time, with the CPU trying to manage everything you see and don't see and, oh, let's say, play your Brittney Spears CD without skips...

    How is your CPU suposed to keep track of whether to refresh your screen right now, whether there's a CD in the tray, what are you reading off the HDD... and where the heck is your mouse cursor, anyway, and did it just click an 'OK' button??? And which one????

    Well it does this through IRQ lines... each piece of HW gets its own 'bat-phone' (IRQ#- or Interrupt ReQuest #...essentially "Please, Mr. CPU, stop what you are doing and listen to me", a specific piece of hardware that the CPU understands well; the CPU is well aware that a printer is not a CD-ROM drive ) direct to the CPU... so if nothing comes in on IRQ6, it's because you aren't reading or writing to a floppy right now, so the CPU doesn't have to be constantly polling to see.

    But look at your list for IRQ11. You've got the Ultra66 controllers (from your mobo, unconnected, I pray), the SB Live and the G400 all on the same 'bat-phone'. So what happens when you're playing HL and you're trying to blast those 8 marines who are moving around, and your gun and their guns are blasting away in 3d sound? Well the G400 wants the bat phone to tell the cpu to calculate where the pixels it's drawing are. The SB wants the phone to tell the cpu to calc the sound data. And if you had a HDD connected to those Ultra 66 controllers, it would want to tell the CPU the game data... the CPU couldn't listen to all of those conflicting instructions, and the game would lock or crash... that's what 'IRQ steering' is about and why any HW can share with a Steering placeholder.. steering serves as a 'bouncer' [in the tavern security sense] for it's IRQ, making sure the requests get through the relatively narrow CPU pipeline in an orderly and timely fashion.

    So... if you are not using an Ultra66 HDD, disable the controllers, via jumpers or BIOS. Not sure if you can move the G400 or the SB live to IRQ9 --don't know what that is that's there now... but that setup on IRQ 11 must be broken up anyway you can.. I think you need to do the PCI card shuffle, myself...

    Sorry.

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    Holly


    [This message has been edited by motub (edited 20 October 1999).]

    [This message has been edited by motub (edited 20 October 1999).]
    Holly

    "All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open ended program of procreative racial deconstruction."
    -Jay Bulworth

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    • #32
      Hmmmm Holly, I know what kind of job you could do when you come here

      Jord.

      [This message has been edited by Jorden (edited 20 October 1999).]
      Jordâ„¢

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      • #33
        Excuse me y'all, this is totally OT...

        I <u>love</U> you...!!!!

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        Holly
        Holly

        "All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open ended program of procreative racial deconstruction."
        -Jay Bulworth

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        • #34
          Wouldn't love to hear otherwise

          I love you !!

          Jorden.
          Jordâ„¢

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          • #35
            heh?


            -Confused.

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            • #36
              Snark - I guess you're new round these parts? Well, Jorden and motub (Holly) met over this forum a while back, and are now engaged...

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              Cheers,
              Steve

              PS: Some or all of the above message may be wrong, or, just as likely, correct. Depends on what mood I'm in. And what you know. ;¬)


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              • #37
                Hmmm >8)interesting......

                ARGH!!!!! MY COMPUTER IS DYING AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR ENGAGEMENT!!! (jk)

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                • #38
                  Yes, yes sorry, he's just soooo... mine..

                  here's the backstory, if you must know (or like soap operas)
                  http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/Forum5/HTML/002040.html
                  http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/Forum5/HTML/002634.html
                  http://forums.murc.ws/ubb/Forum5/HTML/004843.html

                  That should about cover it... not a joke, not a gag, what-if, or imaginary story. Yes, yes, it's all true, I met my husband (to-be) on the Internet, because of faulty videocard drivers.

                  ...Just <u>deal</u> with it, people! Geez.. you'd think we were strange or sumthin'....

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                  Holly

                  [This message has been edited by motub (edited 20 October 1999).]
                  Holly

                  "All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open ended program of procreative racial deconstruction."
                  -Jay Bulworth

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                  • #39
                    Awww, buck up, snark, if it dies, it's just an excuse to get a new..... on the other hand, now that I look at it, that's a pretty nice rig, actually...

                    So stop reading those old posts and let's get to work, here!!!

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                    Holly
                    Holly

                    "All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open ended program of procreative racial deconstruction."
                    -Jay Bulworth

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                    • #40
                      this part is not good :

                      11- HPT 366 Ultra DMA Controller
                      11- HPT 366 Ultra DMA Controller
                      11- Creative SB Live
                      11- Matrox AGP - English
                      11- IRQ Holder for PCI Steering
                      11- IRQ Holder for PCI Steering

                      you see MATROX & SB LIVE @ same IRQ makes wery bed combo for BUSMASTRING.... you must separate them .....

                      as I see IRQ 10 is free force eather G400 or SB LIVE ! to use it... it is better if you can assign it to SB LIVE ! leaving G400 @ IRQ 11..



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                      PIII450@465,P2b,128mb,Matrox Mill-G400 32SH,SB.Live !(value)...
                      PIII650@806(fsb@124),ASUS P3B-F,128mb,Matrox Mill-G400 32SH,SB.Live!vlue ,IntelliMouse Explorer

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                      • #41
                        1) Remove the IRQ usage for your parallel port.

                        Somewhere in your BIOS, probably the Integrated Peripherals section, there's an option to set the parallel port to SPP. That will allow it to operate WITHOUT using an IRQ - that'll get you back IRQ 7 for use by whatever.

                        That may help clean up things. Give it a shot.

                        2) Crack open your case and take a good look at what cables go to what IDE controllers.

                        You want to figure out WHICH IDE channels are in use. From your manual:

                        IDE1 - Integrated IDE channel 1
                        IDE2 - Integrated IDE channel 2
                        IDE3 - HighPoint ATA-66 channel 1
                        IDE4 - HighPoint ATA-66 channel 2

                        You've probably got your hard disk on IDE3, and your CD-ROM using IDE1. If so, you can DISABLE the Secondary IDE controller in your BIOS, getting back IRQ 15.

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                        Give that a shot. Let us know how you make out.


                        [This message has been edited by IceStorm (edited 20 October 1999).]
                        The pessimist says: "The glass is half empty."
                        The optimist says: "The glass is half full."
                        The engineer says: "I put half of my water in a redundant glass."

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                        • #42
                          take a look :

                          0 System timer
                          1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
                          2 Programmable interrupt controller
                          3 Communications Port (COM2)
                          4 Communications Port (COM1)
                          4 Communications Port (COM3)
                          5 Creative SB16 Emulation
                          6 Standard Floppy Disk Controller
                          7 ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
                          8 System CMOS/real time clock
                          9 (free)
                          10 Creative SB Live! Value
                          10 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
                          10 IRQ Holder for PCI Steering
                          11 Matrox Millennium G400 - English
                          11 IRQ Holder for PCI Steering
                          12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port
                          13 Numeric data processor
                          14 Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
                          14 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
                          15 Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
                          15 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller

                          now you see that only IRQ 4 is shared with COM 1 & 3 I dont use COM1 so I dont care about, I use COM 3 (USRmodem) & COM2 for direct connection to other PC via serial...



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                          PIII450@465,P2b,128mb,Matrox Mill-G400 32SH,SB.Live !(value)...
                          PIII650@806(fsb@124),ASUS P3B-F,128mb,Matrox Mill-G400 32SH,SB.Live!vlue ,IntelliMouse Explorer

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                          • #43
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                            I believe the IRQ problem is almost done. After slaving at the computer for hours, I managed to understand A BIT about what the hey you all have been talking about all the while . Well, after screwing up my bios for about half an hour, I managed to get these results:

                            __________________
                            00- System Timer
                            01- Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
                            02- Programmable interuupt controller
                            03- COM4
                            04- COM1
                            05- Creative SB16 Emulation
                            06- Standard Floppy Disk Controller
                            07- ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
                            08- System CMOS/Real Time Clock
                            10- HPT 366 Ultra DMA Controller
                            10- HPT 366 Ultra DMA Controller
                            10- Creative SB Live
                            10- IRQ Holder for PCI Steering
                            11- Matrox G400 AGP - English (FINALLY!!!!!)
                            11- IRQ Holder for PCI Steering
                            13- Numeric data processor
                            14- Intel 82371ab/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
                            14- Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
                            15- Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
                            15- IRQ Holder for PCI Steering

                            Someone PLEASE tell me its ok cause if its not I'm likely going to throw myself out the window..... or maybe my computer first


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                            My CPU: PIII 500 Mhz (no oc)
                            SB Live (Full)
                            Millenium G400 32 mb DH (no MAX)
                            256 mb SDRam (No ECC)
                            ABit BE-6 mb
                            17 GB Seagate ATA 66 HDD
                            SoundWorks FPS 2000
                            US Robotics modem
                            40x NEC CD-Rom
                            17" Philips 107MB monitor

                            --Everyone wants a snarky... ...YEAH RIGHT--

                            [This message has been edited by Snark (edited 20 October 1999).]

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                            • #44
                              Looks like you did it, Snark. Now you tell us if it's okay...
                              P3@600 | Abit BH6 V1.01 NV | 256MB PC133 | G400MAX (EU,AGP2X) | Quantum Atlas 10K | Hitachi CDR-8330 | Diamond FirePort 40 | 3c905B-TX | TB Montego A3D(1) | IntelliMouse Explorer | Iiyama VisionMaster Pro 17 | Win2K/NT4

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                              • #45
                                I'd still nuke either a COM port or the LPT port's IRQ to get that Live! on it's own IRQ (or shut off SB Emulation), separate from the HighPoint controller, but whatever floats your boat.
                                The pessimist says: "The glass is half empty."
                                The optimist says: "The glass is half full."
                                The engineer says: "I put half of my water in a redundant glass."

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