Intel Coppermine 733 beats the Athlon 700???

[Maggi]

Hi Joel,

I thought so ... we (the customers) can only benefit from that battle ...

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Cheers,
Maggi
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Working Rig:
Asus P2B-DS @ 103MHz FSB
Double Pentium III-450 @ 464 MHz
4 x 128MB CAS2 SDRAM
Matrox Millennium G400 32MB DualHead
Nokia 445Xi (21")
Nokia 447Xpro (17")

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Asus P2B-S Bios 1010 @ 112MHz FSB
Celeron 300A @ 504MHz
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Matrox Millennium G400 32MB DualHead @ 150/200MHz
CTX VL710T (17")

[Alfie]

Does anyone know if the 820 chipset has been released?
Just read an article stating the new faster pentium chips will be running on via based mobos,as the via chipset supports 133mhz.memory(bus speed?).Intels new 810 chipset (100mhz) will be used in low cost computers and the 820 when released will also be implemented,however it seems Via may be the temporary leader as far as chipsets used!
It is interesting to note AMD plans to release a 1,000 mhz. cpu on .18 copper in the 1st quarter of 2,000.You want to talk of power!
Remember when 90mhz socket 5 ruled? A 1 gig hard drive was frivolous(after all who would ever need so much storage space?)That was just 5 years ago.2meg video and you were King of the hill!That same 90mhz sold for nearly $900.00
How times change.

[paulcs]

I remember my first 286 Dell. I was thrilled.

I also remember booting with a floppy.

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

[PaulS]

My first computer (at age 11) was a secondhand Sinclair ZX81 with 1Kb RAM, booted from ROM and loaded programs via an audio tape player. Cost AU$300 - took my paper run savings for an entire year.

From memory that 0.3Mhz Z80 seems faster than the 133Mhz MIPS processor in my Cassiopea!

Paul

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[Buuri]

franksch3,

If I remember correctly, 3DStudio Max has 3DNow! support.

You don't.

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[UncleJoe]

Results of tests seem to have slight difference, depending on what site you read... I suppose Intel and AMD are quite equal when comparing Cumine and Athlon with similar mhz. But we have to remember that best Intel results have bechmarked with i820
board and i haven't seen one in market yet...
And have testers used latest AGP-miniport patch from AMD ? In game-benchmarks it seem to make real fps-difference (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/4q99/athlonmobo/shootem-4.html). And how will 0.18 micron Athlons preform ... Interesting times !

[WayneHu]

and most funny thing might be...

Coppermine-128 will still use FSB of 66 MHz.. if Coppermine + i820 at 133 MHz doesn't perform well...

It's really unbelievable that Intel protect his "High-end" products in this way...
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Celeron 300P@558/2.0v, P3B-F, G400DH/32MB

[Jammrock]

Interesting battle, this PIII vs Athlon debate has made. This is the way I see it.

Athlons have the better design that the CuMine's. Why? Because MHz for MHz the Athlon produces better scores than the CuPIII with a slower L2 cache and bus speed (well, the south bridge is slower at least). When the Athlon Ultra and Pro's come out the tide of the battle will change back to AMD. They will be running full speed, optimized L2 cache on a 0.18 micron die (well, maybe once the Dresden chips ship. I don't think the Texas plant can produce 0.18 microns, yet). Plus the bus speeds on the bus will jump to 133 MHz south bridge and 266 MHz north bridge. They will support 266 MHz DDR RAM, which is just as fast, if not faster than RDRAM. Plus they can put the 266 MHz DDR RAM on the North bridge for even more bandwidth (woo hoo).

As for the Itanium: Yes the Itanium is going to be a great design and an extremely fast chip, but it is going to be at least 2-3 YEARS before enough hardware and software has been made that the consumer market will start switching over. I do not know enough about the Sledgehammer design to comment, but according AMD it will be much easier and quicker to create Sledgehammer code than Itanium. Time will tell.

Jammrock

[Gum]

No matter what, AMD HAVE TO SURVIVE in order to keep Intel busy battling the CPU speeds and price wars.

I'm waiting for the sweet spot and Athlon mobo compatability problems to be ironed out before upgrading my good old K6-2 448Mhz system... :-D

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