problem with TurboGL + K7 (Asus K7M / K7-500)

[Heirauqs]

Hi,

I last week got a Asus K7M + Athlon 500. Everything works fine, AGP, USB, Ethernet, 2D, 3D, etc... except one thing: Turbo GL.

I uninstalled the drivers using the setup utility, rebooted. Clicked cancel when windows detected the card. I went in mgafold/win_530, clicked on setup.

"G400 drivers - installed"
"TurboGL - failed"

I redownloaded the drivers, same problem.
I reboot, windows still ask for drivers for "VGA display card"

If I put the openGL32.dll in the game dir, I don't get any improvment, in Q2, I don't see "g400 turbogl", etc...

BTW, the AMD miniport is installed

Anyone have any idea? R0M? And? Haig? anyone?

Thanks!!

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Asus K7M, K7-500, 128 ram, WD 13.6gb 7200rpm, G400 32mb DH, SB Live! value, Yamaha 4416s, PCWorks FPS 1000, Optiquest V73, STB TV Tuner, TekRam 390 scsi card, SupraExpress 56i sp, Ethernet card, Gravis Exterminator, Wheelmouse.

[Zwisch]

you have both the 3 in 1 patch from via and the agp from amd?

How about IRQ's..?

[Heirauqs]

Huh, whats the 3 in 1 VIA/AMD patch? I don't think I have it

IRQs should be fine, works perfect in D3D/normal OpenGL

Thanks

[Joel]

If you look in the directory where the 5.30 drivers are, you should see a file named MGATGLK7.DLL This is the TurboGL file that gets renamed to OPENGL32.DLL and added to your game directory. If the automatic install failed, just copy this file to your game directory and then rename it OPENGL32.DLL, then choose the default OpenGL setting in the game itself. The game will see it and use it instead of the regular ICD.

Joel

[Zwisch]

You need to have :
3 in 1 patch from VIA (should be on teh CD that came with the mobo)
AGP patch for the northbridge chipset (amd751) from AMD's site under support and downloads... Without these your system will never work properly...

[Heirauqs]

Joel - I put the files, didn't get any improvment.

Whats the name of the 3 in 1 patch on the cd? I can't find it...

Thanks!

[Greebe]

Go here!

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System: Win98 + SP1, DX7; K7 500 @ 650; Modified CoolMaster
K7 heatsink/fan; MSI MS-6167, bios 1.3, AGP drivers 4.45 and IDE driver
4.45; Matrox G400 Max DH, bios 1.5-22, PD 5.3 & TurboGL, Cornerstone 50/95 21" monitor, 128 regular
PC100 sdram cas3 set to cas2; TB Quadzilla sound, latest Aureal driver
2.25; Promise FastTrack raid controller, bios 1.6; Twin IBM DTTA-171440
14.4 gb GXP series HD's, Linksys 10/100 pci nic, 3.5 floppy, Asus
CD-S400 cdrom, Imation IMW040420IA 4x4x20 CD-R/RW, bios 1.3; InWin Q500
full tower case w/ a 300w supply.

Scores:
3Dmark 99 Max 800x600 16bit triple buffered
6525 3Dmarks
11000 CPUmarks
Game 1 Race 73.7
Game 2 First person 59
Fill rate w/ multi-Texturing 301.7
2meg texture rendering speed = 556 (640x480 16bit, double buffer)
2meg texture rendering speed = 432 (800x600 16bit, triple buffer)
32meg texture rendering speed = 97 (800x600 16bit, triple buffer)

Q3 compkill.dm3 1024x768 All settings set to MAX except for color
depth 16 bit and texture filter set to bilinear.
26.9 fps

Q3demo1.dm3 all setting to highest except, 16 bit color depth, set to bilinear and sky set low
1600x1200 = 21.5
1280x960 = 31.2
1024x768 = 48.1
800x600 = 74.6
640x480 = 89.2
Fastest = 111.4!

Q2demo1.dm2 + 3Dnow drivers all settings highest.
1024x768 = 82.1 fps
1280x960 = 53.4 fps
1600x1200 = 34.1 fps

Sandra 99 Pro
2154 Mips
840 mflops

Drives benchmark
Raid array
Drive index = 15669

Greebe... who's really smile'n lately

[Greebe]

Also what bios are you using?

[Heirauqs]

I haven't updated my G400 bios nor the Asus k7M. I can't find any info on the K7M on Asus's website (yes, I know it's a oem board)

The link you gave me on AMD's page is for the miniport AGP, I installed this. What I am looking for is the 3 in patch VIA patch Zwicsh talked about... Anyone know where to find it, and what the name of the file is?

Thanks!!

[Greebe]

OK then. I was going to send BIOS ver 1006, but what the hey, I'm sure Zwisch can figure out what he's talking about and send it to ya!

[Zwisch]

no ideas where to get the 3 in 1 patch. I got this simply by looking at the FAQ from FIC. I do not have the mobo yet... :


--Q: Please specify all the files downloadable for the FIC's SD-11 Motherboards and also all updates for the VIA's chipsets files? (9/15/99)

A: VIA 3 in one service pack 3.01, AMD chipset patch Ver. 4.45 and Highpoint Xstore driver. Installation procedure as follow:
for Win98 user
1)Load Windows 98.
2)Load AMD chipset patch 4.45 for north bridge. (additional 1.44 floppy diskette which will be integrated into CD-PRO 4.0)
3)Load VIA 3 in One service pack, if AGP device present check all option, while PCI VGA display card do not check VIA VxD (AGP gart table for VIA chipset).
4)Load dispaly card (AGP or PCI) vendor driver, if resolutions can not go beyond 800X600, specify your monitor type after system restart.
5)Some aged AGP vendors may provide old VIA chipset patch to overrid VIA VxD driver, in case of this reload VIA 3 in one once again for safty.
6)Load Highpoint Xstore driver instead of VIA IDE bus master driver.

for Win95 user
1)Load Windows 95.
2)Load VIA 3 in One service pack, if AGP device present check all option except VIA miniport driver, while PCI VGA display card do not check VIA VxD & VIA miniport driver.
3)Load dispaly card (AGP or PCI) vendor driver, if resolutions can not go beyond 800X600, specify your monitor type after system restart.
4)Some aged AGP vendors may provide old VIA chipset patch to overrid VIA VxD driver, in case of this reload VIA 3 in one once again for safty.
5)Load Highpoint Xstore driver instead of VIA IDE bus master driver


so that's about all that I can say... sorry

[Heirauqs]

I got the 4 in 1 patch from Viatech, no improvment

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGG GGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!

Help!

Thanks

[Alfie]

If my memory serves me correctly the fic board is the only board using the via chip (southbridge)The other boards use the AMD chipset.Therfore via 4in1,which is for the via super 7 chipsets would serve no purpose,except to possibly confuse the issue further.
I would advise uninstalling them!
Uninstall the drivers for the g400,double check bios settings,advice on the forums was to set agp at 256 mhz.When windows starts and detects g400,choose card from list standard video cards standard vga.Click ok,ignore the warnings.Restart the computer.In diplay settings and with all programs closed excluding explorer and systray,click on adapter-change-have disk,browse and point out where 5.30 is.
Hopefully everything will fall into place.
Greebe,you know more on Athlon's,am I right on the mobo's?By the way cool overclocking device.

[This message has been edited by Alfie (edited 03 November 1999).]

[vanguardian1]

Actually the FIC and Asus boards both use the AMD Northbridge and VIA Southbridge, so I don't really know if you would need the VIA 4-in-one drivers (that's what they're called)

[kelin]

I am sure this has nothing to do with your prob...but I had alot of wierd goings-on with my K7/FIC/Gigabyte combo(took the FIC back when I found that there was an issue with the FIC k7 mobo, at least the first ones, and my EMS HSDRAM PC133)...all due to not having the right power supply...I was even getting error messages like OpenGL, etc...and unknown model, when trying to play UT....when I got the "correct" power supply it all went away...realize that none of the errors I was getting with my Max appeared to have anything to due with power...
Just a note..
Kelin
pri sys (win 98)
K7 600 and Gig GA-71x
256 megs Enhanced HSDRAM
Adaptec 2940U2W
Quantum Atlas 10K
IBM Ultrastar UW
G400Max
Aureal Vortex 2 Super Quad
3Com NIC for Cable Modem

Sec sys(98, NT and Linux)
P3 450 on Soyo BA6 +III
128 Megs PC100
2 UDAM/33
Creative Ensonic
TNT
2 V2s on SLI
3Com for Cable