A000-FFFF memory range. Is it used?

[Wraithy]

Hi, I'm having trouble with my TNT agp-card now. I have installed an Actiontec PCMCIA adapter and can't get the PCMCIA services to work. I read from their site that if an agp card uses memory range A000-FFFF, then it blocks the 98 PCMCIA card services.

Now I ask, does g400 max use that same range too?

Is that memrange thing true at all?

Is the memory usage dependant of the graphics adapter or the mb or what?

I'm thinking of buying max when I see one, and this would help a bit more.

My system is: 98se/c450/320Mb/abit bh6/6 cards installed terratecEWS64s(isa), Actiontec PCMCIA adapter(isa), DiamondMX300(pci), AdaptecUWscsi-adapter(pci), 3Com10/100(pci), AsusTNT3400(agp)

Thanks for the answer!

Wraithy

[Rags]

On my system it is using that memory range.

Rags

[gbm]

Every VGA-compatible card must use A0000-B0000, B8000-C0000 and C0000-C8000. No way to live without these ranges (well, some onboard VGA use E0000 instead of C0000).

I believe that what the strange message says is that there must be some free place between A0000 and FFFFF for your other stuff.

[Mandala]

Yup.

Checking the resurce use in /system
reports my g400 to use a000-ffff...

To bad for you, seems strange however that someone would contsruct a pcmcia adapter that wont work with agp-cards?

Try turning off video-shadowing (It wont make a difference on fast agp-cards anyway9

And to block all the other memory adressess for your pcmcia cars on your mobo bios.

[Gurm]

Yer PCMCIA device is either very old or sucks hardcore. Sorry.

ALL VGA adapters pretty much take up A000-CFFF at the very least. They shouldn't take up D000-FFFF, since a lot of that is reserved for SYSTEM BIOS SHADOW.

You can disable the system BIOS shadow in your CMOS setup, and see if that helps, also disable VGA BIOS shadow, that'll free up even more.

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[Wraithy]

No can do.
Thank You for information, but it didn't help. I tested today this pcmcia/memory etc. things in my office and came to conclusion that something is somewhere screwd up in my machine... That pcmcia driver should work right in this case too. (We have quite many computers in our office...I'm a soft/hardware tester

The thing is, the adapter is ok. I don't think the problem is there. and it shows unknown thing in the pcmcia-controlpanel app. Thing is that it doesn't start the pcmcia card drivers, and that is because the pcic compatible p&p pcmcia controller in system prop has that yellow mark above it and in the properties it says (code 10). So there probably is some memory thing but I have to install 98 again and put the pcmcia drivers ok before anything else is installed.

And this was FYI only. I mean that because this is not a matrox prob anymore, I'm not expecting any answers to this problem

Wraith

[gbm]

Wait! Could you be very specific on what address ranges are taken by which devices and how you know it?
Also, make sure about the number of zeros in the numbers you write.
As far as I can see, the card takes A0000 to AFFFF, B0000 to BFFFF and C0000 to C7FFF - exactly what I wrote before. The range from C8000 is free for other adapters.

There is no possibility for any card to take A0000 to FFFFF - the whole system would be unable to run then.

And BIOS shadowing has exactly nothing to this.

[Wraithy]

You asked it , Here it comes:

Windows, system properties->device manager->computer->properties->memory

00000000-0009FFFF System board extension for pnp BIOS
000A0000-000AFFFF ASUS AGP-V3400TNT 2.17
000B0000-000BFFFF ASUS ........
000C0000-000C8FFF ASUS ........
000CC000-000D07FF ADAPTEC AHA2940UW SCSI controller
000D0800-000D3FFF Motherboard resources
000F0000-000F3FFF Mother.......
000F4000-000F7FFF Mother.......
000F8000-000FFFFF Mother.......
00100000-13FFFFFF System board extension for PnP BIOS
14000000-1400007F 3Com Fast Etherlink XL 10/100Mb (3c905B-TX)
E0000000-E3FFFFFF Intel 82443BX pentium II pros to PCI bridge (with GART)
E4000000-E4FFFFFF ASUS ........
E4000000-E5FFFFFF Intel 82443BX P II Pros to AGP Controller
E5000000-E500FFFF ASUS ........
E6000000-E6FFFFFF Intel 82443BX P II pros to AGP controller
E6000000-E6FFFFFF ASUS ........
E9000000-E903FFFF Monster Sound II Multifuction Parent
E9000000-E903FFFF Monster Sound II PCI Audio
E9041000-E9041FFF Adaptec AHA2940UW scsi controller
FFFE0000-FFFFFFFF System Board extension for PnP BIOS

DMA's

00 Terratec EWS64 CoDec
01 ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
02 Standard Floppy controller
03 Terratec EWS64S CoDec
04 Direct memory access controller

IRQ's

00 System Timer
01 Standard *** keyboard
02 Programmable interrupt controller
03 ECP Printer port (LPT1)
04 PCIC Compatible Plug and Play PCMCIA Controller (there should be 2 of these)
05 Adaptec AHA 2940U/AHA 2940UW PCI SCSI controller
05 IRQ Holder for PCI steering
06 Standard Floppy Controller
07 Terratec EWS64S CoDec
08 System CMOS/real time clock
09 Terratec EWS64S Synthesizer
10 Monster Sound II Multifuction Parent
10 Monster Sound II PCI Audio
10 IRQ holder for PCI steering
11 ASUS AGP-V3400TNT 2.17
11 IRQ holder for PCI steering
12 3Com Fast 10/100 NIC (3C905B-TX)
12 IRQ holder for PCI steering
13 Numeric data processor
14 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
14 Primary IDE Controller (dual fifo)
15 Intel 8237.........
15 Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)

I/O
(I will _not_ write these down

System otherwise:
-Windows 98SE
-Celeron 300a -> 450 (voltage 2,00; AGP 2/3)
-Abit BH6 (ATX,3dimms, agp, 4 pci, 1 isa, 1 shared)
-320MB memory Microtek (2*128,1*64 PC100)
-230W power
Drives:
-floppy disk drive
-Teac 32x cd-rom (IDE))
-Nec 32x cd-rom (SCSI)
-Plextor 4/2/20 cd-rw (SCSI)
-Nameless cd-rom 2x (for music listening, it has those buttons in the front)
Harddisks:
-IDE 6,4GB WD (in movable rack)
-IDE 6,4GB WD
-IDE 20,5 GB IBM
-SCSI 4,5 GB Seagate Barracuda
Cards:
-Asus 3400 TNT (AGP) Slot:agp
-Empty PCI Slot:1
-3Com 10/100 NIC (PCI) Slot:2
-Adaptec 2940 UW (PCI) Slot:3
-Monstersound II MX300 (PCI) Slot:4
-Actiontec PCMCIA adapter (ISA) Slot:5 (shared)
-Terratec EWS64s +daughter radiocard (ISA) Slot:6

urgh, thats about it, agp aperture is 256

I writed those down in txt file so I don't have to do this anymore

And the problem is that the PCIC compatible PCMCIA driver don't work. it says the normal "this thing does not work ,it might be ... bla bla" nad then "(code 10)" which means from MS-web pages a memory conflict.
The adapter I think is working correctly, when I insert a card, nothing happens, but when i take it away, the computer beeps, as it should. And when the card is in, the pcmcia controlpanel thing shows that there is something in, but it has no name.

Wraith

[Wraithy]

Little additions to the former post:

I read again that memory thing:
It says A000-FFFF memory range, which might be a problem. this reads in the pc700 card readers faq in www.actiontec.com, more specifically http://www.actiontec.com/support/rea....html#s3trio3d

Wraith