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  • #16
    Thanx Paul, guess I learned something today, after running PCIList I found out my AGP was at 1X. I looked in the bios and changed it from 1/1 to 2/3 and now it's set at 2X. Kinda thought there'd be slight perfomance increase but very minimal....anyway thanx again.

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    • #17
      There isn't much of a performance boost from AGP 1x to 2x. There isn't a lot of software out there that takes advantage of the standard. In addition, Matrox uses an unusual implementation of AGP, which, from what I understand, is very effective (albeit a bit fussy).

      I'm impressed that you were overclocking your board to 100 MHz and the only problem you were experiencing was AGP 1x. It's an overclockers dream.

      Paul
      paulcs@flashcom.net

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      • #18
        I have an Abit board BX6 2.0, I ordered a CuMine 550e and going to try my luck at overclocking this thing. Was reading up on the AGP problem with these BX boards, but now that I know that my G400 can handle the 100mhz, I think I should have no problems there.....I hope. I can live with the 1x AGP setting, like ya stated no differance. The only problem now is tryin' to find the IWILL Slotket, these things are selling like hotcakes.

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        • #19
          Trashman,

          You might be able to get one for $28.95 plus S&H at the following address: http://www.ccusaonline.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?

          Good Luck

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          • #20
            This is getting interesting. Tried some different OS'es on an old HD(just for fun of course).
            Here's the situation:
            Win NT 4.0 SP6: AGP2x
            Win98: AGP2x
            Win98 SE: AGP1x
            Win2k: AGP1x
            If I force AGP2x in SE or 2k it will crash.
            Strange?
            Jan.

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            • #21
              Hmmmm. Maybe you should run Windows 98 and install the updates from Microsoft's site.

              That is strange.

              Paul
              paulcs@flashcom.net

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              • #22
                "There isn't much of a performance boost from AGP 1x to 2x."

                Hey a Banshee runs at 1x also !

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                • #23
                  My G400 works at agp 1x too, tried all those registry tweak but it still works 1x, don't mind it now since it is faster than the TNT2 I replaced.

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                  • #24
                    JmsAndrsn, Thanx for the info...I was able to locate one last night...I'll keep that link for future reference though, prices seem reasonable.

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                    • #25
                      Im currently running 98SE at 1x and PCI list tells me this is all my mobo supports, any forced 2x results in lots of screen garbage.
                      Yet when i used to run 2k it seemed to support 2x not a problem.
                      Strange strange things...

                      jms: Im considering going back to the original 98 if it supposibly handles 2x ? because at the moment im having nothing but problems with my g200 on a GA 5aa
                      WindowsME, AMD K6-2/450, GA-5aa (bios 1.3), 64Mb PC-100, Millenium G200 16Mb (bios 2.7) - (pd5.41), Quantum Fireball EL 10.2Gb, Pioneer 10x DVD, Realtek 8029AS, Vibra16, Mitsubishi Diamond View 17"

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                      • #26
                        Grum,

                        You are a hero to us (tech support) no offense, always blame it on something else so your client will go away hehe.

                        We did this all the time at work, " It is Microsoft's fault, call them instead"

                        hehe LOL

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                        • #27
                          I like it this way, some days I'm at 1x others 2x. and belive me I have tried EVERTHING

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                          PIII-450@600, 128 HDSRAM, Asus P3BF, G400/32, SBLive!,Brand stinkin' new Sony G400 19", (no Dual head) Nokia 447Xi 17",AOPEN DVD-1040 10x slot,PLEXTOR 8x4x32 ATAPI CD-RW,PromiseULtra66, and some fish,




                          [This message has been edited by LAMFDTK (edited 02 February 2000).]

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                          • #28
                            *sigh*

                            Folks,

                            It's not the OS, it's your machines. Win98SE and Win2k are just less tolerant of bus noise, and sub-par components such as memory.

                            Try to sort the hardware problems instead of assuming it's the OS or some software or a setting...

                            - Gurm

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                            • #29
                              We can always blame Microsoft. The problem that most people have is that DirectX has been really buggy since the beginning. D3D will cause a system to die if your vid card doesn't support a feature that a game is looking for, and things like that. In my opinion, if a vid card doesn't support a certain feature, the API should take care of it. Sure, it will be slower, but it shouldn't crash the system. How many of you remember how a LOT of the games out there required special patches for them to work in D3D mode with specific video cards? Have you also noticed how Win98 is really really sensitive to just about EVERYTHING? I've seen more SCSI problems under 98 than under 95, and 98SE is even worse. Disconnect, and sync data transfer both may cause major problems with SCSI CD-ROM drives because the OS can't handle the data transfers properly. Unfortunately, this sensitivity only adds to problems when there are hardware difficulties.

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                              • #30
                                Sweet!
                                Got my 500E today, it does 667 easy. The difference between this cpu and my old C366@550 is remarkable, but it won't let my G400 fly at 2x(he-he ). Saw over at Tom's hardware, where he tested the Gefarce at 1x,2x and 4x with the new VIA KX133. Almost no difference at all.
                                Jan

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