!!! OGL still not working with 5.50.1 on SS7-Boards !!!

[Surfwienix]

opengl-games like quake3 are still not working with the latest 5.50.1 driver on my mvp3-board. and opengl-applications like mapleV have problems with the newest G400ICD, too.
thief works now,
***BUT WHAT IS WITH US SS7-USERS. WE WANT FASTER OPEN-GL, TOO***

now i will turn back to 5.41 + G40032.DLL from 5.30 + Turbo-GL 1.0.


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\\ Surfwienix //
(German)

My System:

AMD K6-2/400 non-o/c
Epox MVP3C-M Super7
128MB SDRAM(PC100)
-> G400 MAX (PD 5.30+TGL1.0+DX7a) non-o/c
Terratec DMX Canyon3D
6,4GB Maxtor HDD (UDMA33)
ASUS 50x-CDROM (UDMA33)
Realtek 8019 Ethernet (ISA)
19" Monitor CTX-VL950T (95khz)

[gbm]

You are absolutely right. Remember, it's just BETA release.

[Chris Blake]

Awwwww!! nuts.

I was hoping they'd have fixed that. Oh well.

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Chris Blake

Home System:
Epox MVP3G5, K6III450, 256Mb RAM, 13.6Gb ATA66 HDD G400Max DH, SBLive! Value and whole load of other stuff

Work System:
Dell Precision220 Dual PIII 533, 128Mb RAM, 20Gb ATA66 HDD, G400Max DH, and even more other stuff

[Compton]

It's not just SS7, Apollo Pro133+ has the same problem.

[habig]

Sure, it's just a beta release. But, not only is it a very unsubtle and obvious failure, there's the scary fact that the last release of any sort which worked fine for me was 5.25, four releases and many months ago!

My system, a G200 and VIA-based SS7 combo, isn't so bizzare, but apparently they don't own any similar machines at Matrox's testing center.

5.30 - BSOD upon entering a 3D mode.
5.41 - Powerdesk steals the whole CPU.
5.50 - BSOD again.

(not just me, but repeated reported by many people both on MURC and on usenet)

Matrox, please spend the $300 on SS7/K6-2/G200 system, and try out your releases before hundreds of people around the world waste a lot of time each to find out for themselves that it Just Plain Crashes.

Alec

[Bixler]

Where's Gurm when you need him! :0)



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AMD K6III 400 @ 476
On a SOYO SY5EMA M/B
Marvel G200 TV with HW/DVD Daughtercard
CDBurner
Creative DVD
Promise Ultra 66 Controller
two big WD Hdds
Outboard 56K modem
Parallel Port Scanner
All stuffed into a Mid-tower ATX case
with no device slots left!

[rylan]

I think its pretty scary that it doesn't work on the Apollo Pro133+ chipset either (according to Compton).

Anyone else have one of these fairly new chipsets and try this out? This could be a nasty issue, since VIA ppretty much has the only 133mhz fsb chipsets out there for *ntel and Athlon (unless you want use the crappy 840 chipset or whatever it is with the sdram compatibility chip that makes it slow as crap)

[Compton]

rylan, it gets ever scarier, my G200 is PCI! I wouldn't think there should be that big of a difference between Via's implementation of PCI and Intel's since the big problem has always been AGP. But at least Direct3D works great (some of the time) with the new driver.

[rylan]

Wow.. now thats _really_ odd. You're right.. the pci implementation should be pretty much the same. Hopefully they'll get it ironed out before the final release hits. It sure would effect lots of people since its an issue on Via SS7 and now Via 133 for Intel chips.
Wonder if it effects the new Via Athlon 133 chipset also.

[[paradox]]

hehehe G200's and SS7 never seem to go hand in hand reading the forums...
but unfortunately im gonna have to say opengl runs fine on my system :-)
ive got PD5.30 at the moment (due to D3D problems) and about to install the latest beta shortly. ill post my findings when i return :-)

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AMD K6-2/450, GA-5aa (bios 1.3), 64Mb PC-100, Millenium G200 16Mb (bios 2.3), Quantum Fireball EL 10.2Gb, Pioneer 10x DVD, Realtek 8029AS, Vibra16, Mitsubishi Diamond View 17"

[Joel]

The fact is that the current TGL will not run on a SS7 system with any drivers other than the 5.3x version. Matrox does know about the problem and I'm sure they are working on it but I don't think they are going to give it as much resources as the regular ICD. That's where their concentration is. For me the 5.30 + TGL combo is about 25% faster in Q2 but is 5-10% less in most D3D games.

Joel

[anid]

Right Joel, but the problems on SS7 boards are with G200, not G400, so TGL isn't the issue in this case... And, yeah, with the 5.5 beta I get fatal exceptions as soon as DX initializes. Which I'm ok with, 5.41 is very stable (with Pdesk disabled so as not to eat the CPU) and fast. My framerates in Quake2 (1024x768x16, high VQ) are the same with it as they are with the 3DNow optimized driver, but the VQ is even better. I ain't gonna scream and shout about it, but it is kinda a shame that SS7 / G200 does not get the support intel / G400 gets...

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I say "Here's a monkey wrench... If you bop me over the head with it long enough I might wake up for a second."

[Taz]

Joel,

I'm a bit supprised by your comments as I am running PD v5.41 + TurboGL on an SS7 system without probs. I am using an Iwill XA100plus which uses the ALi Alladin 5 chipset, maybe the problems only occur on m'boards with the VIA chipset.

[Joel]

Now that would be a twist in this all considering the problems that ALI chipsets had with the G200. But I will pass this information on.

Joel

[Gurm]

Don't fear, I'm here (always near, like beer, full of cheer)!

Ok, enough rhyming now.

The expected response, from me, would be something to the effect of "get a real motherboard". But since it's also happening with an excellent chipset (the Apollo Pro133), I will be a little more gentle:

"This is what you get when you don't buy Intel - a neverending battle to keep all of your components working."

Now, for those of you with (s)uper(s)ucky(s)even boards - get a real motherboard. However, it is not uncommon to break a feature in a new build on a new chipset (and the Apollo is a VERY new chipset).

So be patient.

- Gurm

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