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**rylan** · 19 February 2000, 11:45

There is a shutdown patch available for win98SE. I believe it is on the winblows update site.

**Zingen Ortin** · 19 February 2000, 11:54

Sorry, I forgot to mention it. I have already installed this patch for win98se shutdown trouble but nothing changed. No improvement at all. All remains the same.

Thanks for your kind quick reply.

Zingen

**Solo22** · 19 February 2000, 12:00

I had the same problem with my QDI Advance 5/133 motherboard. It uses the VIA chipset.

The first thing that helped was to put the AGP Aperture size down to 8 or 16...but that didn't make sense to run like that.

So the real solution for me...was installing the latest VIA drivers. Since then I have no trouble what so ever shutting down. (My AGP Aperture size is at 128 now)

hope this helps

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PIII-500, 128M RAMpc-100, ADVANCE 5/133 Motherboard, QuantumKA 18.2gig, QuantumST 6.4gig, Creative DVD-Rom 5x, Pioneer CD-Rom 12x, G400Max Dualhead, SB Live, Winmodem 33.6, NEC MultiSync E900+ 19" Monitor, Windows SE

**ParaKnowYa** · 19 February 2000, 13:59

Be sure to have the latest mobo bios installed and try my driver pack online @ www.paraknowya.de it contains the newest beta driver in combination with older drivers and it works quite stable and good for me... worth a try, it might fix the problem, however be sure to flash the newest bios into your board first! Then uninstall the current driver and install my pack!

Please let me know whether or not it helps! =)

**Zingen Ortin** · 19 February 2000, 18:09

My God, still no success.

I have already done the following:

1. Have updated last bios from epox
2. Have updated last Via drivers from epox
3. Have installed Win98 shutdown patch
4. Have installed your G400 PKY pack

What am I doing wrong ? What else should I check ?
I am trying hard for more than 8 hours sitting on here in front of this bloody machine and cannot get it. Is there anyone out there with my same stuff ?

Epox MVP3G5 motherboard is considered one of the best, isnt it?

Please help.
Thanks a lot

Zingen

**Alfie** · 19 February 2000, 19:07

Sometimes anti-virus programs can cause shutdown problems,check it out.

**Joel** · 19 February 2000, 23:50

Try looking at my system spec. You never know, just maybe, it might help.

Joel

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System Specs

**rogman** · 20 February 2000, 01:33

Use the bios settings listed in Joel's reply above. I had the same mainboard as he does, which is similar to yours, and had zero problems when I had my settings the same as his. Epox definately makes a great board. Don't give up.

Also, is your processor overclocked? If so, set it back to normal.

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DaRogMan

System Specs:
Athlon 600
FIC SD-11
G400
SBLive!
LNE100TX
WD AC180000 UDMA/66
Creative 48mx
Atapi Zip 100
Microsoft Internet Keyboard PRO USB
Microsoft Intellimouse w/Intellieye USB
No ISA, no floppy
Win98SE

**Zingen Ortin** · 20 February 2000, 08:17

Thanks for your specs.
I have carefully checked on them and put bios settings as per yours but unsuccesfully.
I am now deciding:

1) downloading lattest directx 7a driver.
2) unistalling win98se and start again from zero, installing windows 98 (hopefully to be 4.10.1998) the one I have.
3) Installing lattest Via 4-in-1 driver pack which I have also downloaded from epox site (I do not know if it will be 4.18a vers.)
4) Install Matrox lattest video drivers which I have already downloaded from this site (w9x55010)
5) Apply registry hack top disable Vsync.
6) Leaving bios settings as per your specs suggestion.

Will see what happens...

BTW, I have a few questions for you please:

1) How should I know which Via driver versions are they in 4-in-1 driver pack?

2) and IMPORTANT: How should I apply registry hack to disable VSync ?

Thank you mates.
Difficult to go on without your kind help. I do not want to give up but if things go worst, may I please ask you which other motherboard supporting K6 III 450Mhz should I buy to be fully compatible with Matrox G400 DH 16 MB. No matter it is cheaper or worst than the epox one, just simply it can run from the very begining after assembled. Any ideas?

Very best
Zingen

**ParaKnowYa** · 20 February 2000, 08:40

Well first of all good luck with the new ideas! Hope they work for you. Note however, that I've had some problems with the 5.50.010 with my K7 which is an AMD CPU just like the K6-III so you might want to try my drivers again after the clean installation!

Concerning a new mobo, I'd suggest you to get a Asus or a Gigabyte board because they are in general of good quality and they keep the support up to a degree! I've had several Gigabyte mobos which were of really good quality still living in smaller PCs here. The last two Asus boards were great too, the P5A (maybe a board for you?! and the K7M both working really well!

regards
PKY

**anid** · 20 February 2000, 15:32

Do NOT use the Via 4 in 1, also don't get the drivers from the Epox site, they are not the most recent. Download only the Via AGP 3.59 driver directly from Via ( http://www.viatech.com/ ) and use it. Before doing so uninstall the previous Via drivers by running the 4 in 1 setup again and choosing the uninstall option. Reboot, install the AGP 3.59 driver. Reboot, run the Matrox uninstall program, then install the Matrox 5.41 (or 5.25) drivers. I don't know that it will fix your problem, but it will be the most stable set-up for an Epox board. Also, the only difference between DX7a and DX7 is some of the direct input drivers, so it should not make any difference with it.

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I say "Here's a monkey wrench... If you bop me over the head with it long enough I might wake up for a second."

**terence** · 21 February 2000, 04:07

If your still having problems, make sure you install the via AGP driver in normal mode and NOT turbo mode. I have almost exactly the same setup as you, and it only shutsdown properly when installed in normal (AGP 1x) mode. Hope this helps.

**RAB** · 21 February 2000, 07:51

I have the same Epox MVP3G5/K6III-450/G400 combo as you, but I've never had any shutdown problems. In fact, when I first got it, I was amazed at the fast shutdown and automatic power off. I had only an AT case and power supply before this.

Some of the equipment you list is a little older. Could it be that your case and power supply are, shall we say, vintage as well. You could try a new cheap $20 power supply to see if it it is better with the auto shut down than your older one.

RAB

**Zingen Ortin** · 22 February 2000, 15:05

Finally I have got it.
Thank you, thank you, a thousand thanks to you all, specially to Joel for bios settings and clean installation procedure.

It shuts down fine now. Sometimes it takes even some time to do it and a few times I even need to push bottom but anyhow it always displays the shutdown message. It seems to be rather unstable but it works.

I leave it as it is now. Thank you.

This hard task taught me a lot, mainly not to buy an epox mobo again.
Probably it had something to do with my 2 ISA cards (ISDN Eicon Diva Picolla + Sound Blaster AWE64) as it was imposible for me to run my PS2 mouse due to some kind of troubles in spite that no irq conflicts appeared. Either SB or ISDN card did not work when I connected the mouse. Thus, I put it an USB one and the problem was sorted out.

How different this system is from one of the other 5 I have got here at home, specially my ASUS K7M mobo with K7 500Mhz 128Mb RAM PC-100 SB 128PCI. It works like hell since the very begining with Win98SE. No hangs, no blue screens, no exception msgs ....

Again thank you mates.

Cheers
Zingen

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