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  • Solution to solve 4x agp problems !!!

    You can download the Powerstrip or Pcilist from http://www.entechtaiwan.com/ps.htm and check whether it is in 4x mode. Make sure your motherboard support 4x mode. If it doesn't at 4x, you just simply reinstall the the lastest driver again. * Remember to tick the overwrite previous setting while reinstalling the driver
    Hope you will enjoy it!!!

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  • #2
    Or, you could realise that there IS NO AGP 4X PROBLEM SINCE NO MOTHERBOARD AND MEMORY COMBINATION CURRENTLY IN PRODUCTION CAN DO AGP 4X!!!!!!!!!

    Good lord, when will you people learn?

    - Gurm

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    • #3
      Quick followup for the idiotically semantics-challenged:

      Yes, there are AGP 4x capable motherboards.

      No, they will not achieve AGP 4x transfer speeds, because memory just isn't that fast.

      - Gurm

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      • #4
        Unless you have a i820 mobo with a fairly inexpensive 256 Mb rimm

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        • #5
          Nuno:

          No, I would beg to differ. Even with the fastest currently available RAM, you cannot achieve AGP 4x throughput. Someone posted numbers a week or two back, you can run a quick forum search to find them. But trust me, no system available today offers that kind of throughput to the AGP bus, so it's moot.

          - Gurm

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          • #6
            Hi there Gurm
            Not even rambus? I was under the impression that AGP4x bandwidth was about 1Gb/sec and PC133 theoretically manages that (but not in pratice, as there would be no bandwidth left for the other devices other than AGP). As rambus has such a massive bandwidth (despite horrible latencies) I though it would manage AGP4x easily.

            I will try to find the thread you mentioned.

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            • #7
              Nuno,

              The issue is not whether Rambus supports that theoretical bandwidth, but whether any currently-in-production motherboards support that for overall transfers.

              For example, Ultra66 devices THEORETICALLY support 66MB/sec. transfers, right? And the PCI bus THEORETICALLY supports hundreds of megabytes per second, right? So why is it that in practice, you get only a few megabytes per second on transfers?

              Because the overall architecture doesn't support 66MB/sec. to ANY device.

              On an i820 motherboard, you still can't get 1GB/sec. to ANYWHERE, nevermind one specific device.

              And for reasons I won't go into, Rambus should be called ScamBus or ScamBust. It doesn't work as advertised, even under the BEST of circumstances.

              - Gurm

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              • #8
                Yes, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up Gurm!
                And you're right about rambus. What a joke. And an expensive one.

                Oh, BTW I'm posting this from BeOS 5. Great stuff. I think I'll install RedHat in a spare partion just to brag I run win98, win2k, BeOS and Linux all in the same box

                [This message has been edited by Nuno (edited 29 March 2000).]

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                • #9
                  With regard to AGP, I agree with you Gurm. But I definately get better performance from my ATA66 hard drives than you describe. Both of my drives test out with a Burst Rate of 57-58 MBp/s. Sustained Read Rate averages about 22 MBp/s for one, and 17 MBp/s for the other. Are you using new drives on a BX board? Or are you still using ATA33 drives?
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                  • #10
                    22mega BYTES per second? Really?

                    Hmm... let's do some quick math...

                    That would mean you could move a gigabyte of data in... about 45 seconds.

                    It's more like 2-3 minutes in practice for me... which puts my sustained rate at under 10, for sure.

                    And yes, brand new IBM and Western Digital drives, running on a Promise U66 on a P3B-F board. *shrug*

                    It doesn't bother me much, as the decreased latency is what I was really after.

                    My other problem, though, is that the Ultra66 seems to not bus master as well as the onboard BX controller does... in that more CPU time is used by high-activity disk operations than would otherwise be the case.

                    - Gurm



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                    Listen up, you primitive screwheads! See this? This is my BOOMSTICK! Etc. etc.
                    The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

                    I'm the least you could do
                    If only life were as easy as you
                    I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                    If only life were as easy as you
                    I would still get screwed

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                    • #11
                      i have a aopen ax6c 820 mobo
                      with 256ecc rdram
                      and an 800cpu o/c'ed to 152 bus running smoothly,
                      i do believe, checking wcpuid, that my agp is 4x forced and working fine, except when running more than ten minutes on unreal or such....
                      is there a difference then 2x, no, in fact i can do better bus o/c'ing when set lower to 2x of course, but i can clock my rdram separately, it is 800 but o/c'ed to 966 fine

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                      [This message has been edited by imemine (edited 01 April 2000).]
                      gg

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