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  • #16
    Wow, I like the smell of price war in the morning

    Now, I'm not so sure, that I'll buy G450.

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    • #17
      From what I've been reading, the DualHead/TwinView feature of the MX chips might be a hold-over from their original focus of being mobile parts, as mobiles are normally expected to be able to drive 2 difference displays (i.e. the intergrated display and an external monitor/tv).


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      • #18
        Blankx,

        Matrox was the first to do this without adding another graphics processor to the video card. This allows the general user to benefit under win98/winme the same as having an appian, or two video cards. Matrox is the only mfr. to have one graphics processor for two displays (for now).

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        • #19
          Isn't it also notable that the G400 can drive the two displays at differing resolutions? Can the MX also provide that?
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          • #20
            Look, I'm pro-matrox BUT:
            Matrox licensed EMBM, copied the miti display etc. It's not bad, M$ copied everything from Mac, Amiga etc. The idea is to do it better than the original, that's what nVIDIA are trying to do now and they are surely on the right track. Matrox doesn't have to innovate all the time, just make it better. nVIDIA took the dualhead and VCQ, PowerVR took EMBM, I think matrox should do the same by taking the tile based rendering, t-buffer, T&L, and the multiprocessor idea. It worked for M$, it works for nVIDIA, so why not for matrox ?
            If it will make cards come out tot he market faster and with better drivers or "out of the box..." then the purpose is (well) served.
            Ant, sorry but the G450 is a whole bunch of nothing, it's nothing more than a G400 with some steroids, it can't compete with neither the GeForce nor with the Voodoo 5 or the new PowerVR in gaming performance. I don't care so much about business users because I'm not one. I'm a gamer, I need best quality and gaming speed with DVD, tv-out etc. The G400 gave it to me, but it's starting to show his age. I'd like a little more fps in UT 1024x768@32bpp

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            • #21
              Actually it was the S3 ViRGE/GX2, long before the G400, which first allowed users to have two different multimonitor displays from one graphics controller...

              But both the GX2 and G400 need external support to do this - the G450 looks to be the first to really integrate this into one piece of silicon.

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              • #22
                From the other site review

                2D of Geforce2 MX is even better than of Geforce2 GTS.

                Can anyone point me to the thing, in which G450 is better than Geforce2 MX? I'm trying hard to find it, but cannot (Except that NVIDIA doesn't produce cards itself)

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                • #23

                  FiringSquad says:
                  We like this card. The GeForce 2 MX may not be as fast as a GeForce 2 GTS, but it's still a strong performer. Besides, who can argue with the sub-$150 price?
                  The MX is just as fast as the original GeForce and the GeForce 2 GTS at the low resolutions, which is good because the card's memory bandwidth limitations will keep you at those resolutions. If you're a high resolution, all the eye-candy kind of guy, this card isn't for you.
                  Dual monitors!
                  We love the MX's dual display capabilities. Several FS staff members (including myself) had been grappling with the choice between a Matrox G400 for DualHead support, or the GeForce 2 GTS and high frame rates. The MX makes everything easier by giving us both multimonitor support and high frame rates. Cards with dual D-sub monitor outputs will definitely cost more than regular MX cards, but we're more than willing to pay the extra $50.
                  Corporate and business users will benefit from the MX's robust digital flat panel support, and home users will benefit from the MX's GeForce 256 level speed. The GeForce 2 MX offers excellent features and great performance at a very good price. It's not looking good for the KYRO and the G450 right about now.

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                  2 x IBM 4.3Gb scsi,IBM 22GB IDE, Pioneer DVD ROM scsi, G400 32MB DH.

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