G-800 how will it compare to ELSA Gloria III ?

[frankymail]

About the Xeon; The Xeon 933 has only 256 KB of cache. IT IS A COPPERMINE CPU DIE, exactly like a Slot 1 coppermine; It just has a LARGER CARTRIDGE... a P3 933 and a P3 Xeon 933 with the same memory and chipset will perform the same on ANY TEST!

And the G800 issue: just wait and see; you'll be very grateful on monday (but if there are terrorist actions on monday and the PR is delayed, please do not flame me...)

[DuRaNgO]

Himself is right....he has no idea

[Himself]

I don't pretend to.

[frankymail]

Hey everyone, let's forget everything and focus on one thing; DREAMING; I imagine the Fedex guy knocking on my door 2 days after the G800 has been released with my two Millennium G800, a 64 MB and a 32 MB; I then remove my G400, insert the G800 in my little CUSL2-M's AGP-Pro slot, connect my two monitors, push the start button, click "cancel" when asked for the driver disk, format my hard drives, install Windows 2k+Me, install DirectX 8.0, then Powerdesk 6
, Q3A, UT, HW:C, Evolva, CS, and then laugh at everybody who bought G2GTSs/G2GTSultras/Radeons, showing them you can get insane framerates with "My-jaw-dropped-through-the-table-then-hit-the-ground's-concrete-slab-which-immediatly-broke-in-two" image quality, at a very reasonnable price. It may be a (wet) dream, but I really hope Matrox can get their acts together and make a card with great image quality AND speed (read: G200), that is promptly available (read: G400) with stable and tweaked drivers (read: ICD), for a price even I can afford... (I work in a bar in montreal, and I make some pretty good bucks, for a university student (McGill+Allouettes RULEZ!!!) but I just cannot spend $800 on a card (read: Geforce 3...)). Let's go Matrox, you CAN(ADIAN) do it!!!

By the way, I really like positive criticism, so feel free to comment...as long as you agree with me!!! (lol)

Francis Beausejour
Frankymail@yahoo.com

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- Intel P3 1GHz Retail
- Asus CUSL2-M
- 256 MB TinyBGA (2 DIMMs)
- Matrox Millennium G400 DH 32 MB O/C 175/233
- Sony G400 + Sony 210GS
- Dual Quantum Fireball LM Plus 15 GB
- Teac W54E CD-RW + Panasonic 8X DVD-ROM
- Sound Blaster Live! Value
- 3Dfx VoodooTV 200 (Nov. 8TH 2000)
Francis: 19/Male/5'8"/155Lbs/light blue eyes/dark auburn hair/loves SKA+punk+Hard/Software... just joking, I'm not THAT desperate (again, Marie-Josée, if you ever happen to read this (like THAT could happen...), I'm just joking and I REALLY, REEEAAALLLLLYYY love you!))

[This message has been edited by frankymail (edited 10 November 2000).]

[jackzod]

Travailles-tu chez Matrox aussi ???
Pourquoi lundi ?

jackzod

[Wombat]

Except that Himself forgets that some of us are in the Beta program.

[WayneHu]

The new Pentium III Xeon with larger on-die cache is called "Cascade", not Coppermine. The 2MB version contains about 140 million transistors.

It is quite suitable for computing applications of large data sets, and large database query...




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PIII-550E@733/1.65v, P3B-F, G400DH/32MB@140/186

[Himself]

Beta boys == Matrox's hired help to me.

Imagine a web site called Beta Boys, and it gets advance beta versions of drivers over other web sites, advance video cards, possibly for free, and a direct line to Matrox marketing who tells them things like "It will be sooner that most of y'all think", but that's all. A bit more Machiavellian, but no different from NVIDIA's ploys along the same lines.

[Maggi]

Originally posted by frankymail:
About the Xeon; The Xeon 933 has only 256 KB of cache. IT IS A COPPERMINE CPU DIE, exactly like a Slot 1 coppermine; It just has a LARGER CARTRIDGE... a P3 933 and a P3 Xeon 933 with the same memory and chipset will perform the same on ANY TEST!

Sorry, I really didn'T know there were Xeons with 'only' 256KB L2 cache ... I thought they'd start at 512KB and would also be available with 1MB & 2MB.

Thanx for feedback !
Maggi

[Buuri]

Originally posted by frankymail:
Hey everyone, let's forget everything and focus on one thing; DREAMING;

I merely dream about not having to format and install when I get a new display adapter, but you can have it your way.

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[dZeus]

Originally posted by frankymail:
About the Xeon; The Xeon 933 has only 256 KB of cache. IT IS A COPPERMINE CPU DIE, exactly like a Slot 1 coppermine; It just has a LARGER CARTRIDGE... a P3 933 and a P3 Xeon 933 with the same memory and chipset will perform the same on ANY TEST!

Try to use a Coppermine in a 4-way SMP system... won't work.

Xeon core does support 4-way systems. Conclusion: Coppermine core != Xeon core

[frankymail]

Let's put an end to that whole Xeon story once and for all; The P3 Xeons under 600 were a Katmaï OLGA on a Slot2 cartridge, and are available in 512KB, 1024KB and 2048KB external cache configuration, and that is what makes those so expensive; they are also refered to as Large Cache CPUs, and are the only P3 Xeons that support 4-way interleaved MP). All P3 Xeons over 600 MHz are made of a Coppermine OLGA package mounted on a Slot2 cartridge, and are currently (and for the near future) only available available with 256 kb ON-DIE cache, and THAT IS THE ONLY CACHE CONFIGURATION FOR XEONS OVER 600 MHZ...
The only CPU core currently produced by Intel are the Katmaï(P3 Xeons Large Cache), the Coppermine (P3, Celeron >=566, P3 Xeons >=600, Mobile Celeron >=450 and Mobile P3) and the Williamette (P4 1.4-1.5 GHz). Those high-speed P3 Xeons (>=600 MHZ) only support single or dual configuration and are much less expensive than their Large Cache couterparts, even though they are MHz-faster: for exemple, a P3 Xeon 733 is about 10% more expensive than a P3 733, only because of the added cost of the Slot2 cartridge, where a P3 Xeon 550 is about 700-800% more expensive than a P3-550 (Katmaï+half-speed L2 cache)... I hope that this clears everything. And, isn't this a Matrox hardware thread??? Let's hear some of your Condor II rumors here guys!!!

Francis Beausejour
Frankymail@yahoo.com

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- Intel P3 1GHz Retail
- Asus CUSL2-M
- 256 MB TinyBGA (2 DIMMs)
- Matrox Millennium G400 DH 32 MB O/C 175/233
- Sony G400 + Sony 210GS
- Dual Quantum Fireball LM Plus 15 GB
- Teac W54E CD-RW + Panasonic 8X DVD-ROM
- Sound Blaster Live! Value
- 3Dfx VoodooTV 200 (Nov. 8TH 2000)
Francis: 19/Male/5'8"/155Lbs/light blue eyes/dark auburn hair/loves SKA+punk+Hard/Software... just joking, I'm not THAT desperate (again, Marie-Josée, if you ever happen to read this (like THAT could happen...), I'm just joking and I REALLY, REEEAAALLLLLYYY love you!))

[frankymail]

About Cascade:

The Cascade die is not even fabbed yet...
But it will support 4-way interleaved MP, just like the Katmaï-based P3 Xeons or the Deschutes-based P2 Xeons do

Francis Beausejour
Frankymail@yahoo.com

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- Intel P3 1GHz Retail
- Asus CUSL2-M
- 256 MB TinyBGA (2 DIMMs)
- Matrox Millennium G400 DH 32 MB O/C 175/233
- Sony G400 + Sony 210GS
- Dual Quantum Fireball LM Plus 15 GB
- Teac W54E CD-RW + Panasonic 8X DVD-ROM
- Sound Blaster Live! Value
- 3Dfx VoodooTV 200 (Nov. 8TH 2000)
Francis: 19/Male/5'8"/155Lbs/light blue eyes/dark auburn hair/loves SKA+punk+Hard/Software... just joking, I'm not THAT desperate (again, Marie-Josée, if you ever happen to read this (like THAT could happen...), I'm just joking and I REALLY, REEEAAALLLLLYYY love you!))

[frankymail]

About my fresh install: I really prefer to take one hour and give my system some brand new installs instead of spending 3 hours searching for unused registry keys or unusued DLLs... If you are lazy, you can always Ghost your hard drives...

Francis Beausejour
Frankymail@yahoo.com

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- Intel P3 1GHz Retail
- Asus CUSL2-M
- 256 MB TinyBGA (2 DIMMs)
- Matrox Millennium G400 DH 32 MB O/C 175/233
- Sony G400 + Sony 210GS
- Dual Quantum Fireball LM Plus 15 GB
- Teac W54E CD-RW + Panasonic 8X DVD-ROM
- Sound Blaster Live! Value
- 3Dfx VoodooTV 200 (Nov. 8TH 2000)
Francis: 19/Male/5'8"/155Lbs/light blue eyes/dark auburn hair/loves SKA+punk+Hard/Software... just joking, I'm not THAT desperate (again, Marie-Josée, if you ever happen to read this (like THAT could happen...), I'm just joking and I REALLY, REEEAAALLLLLYYY love you!))