Matrox Drivers 5.41+ beta ICD are still the best!~

[Casper99]

I have tried every driver that Matrox has come out with and i have come to the conclusion that the powerdesk drivers 5.41 and the beta ICD dumped in with them give the best performance overall and out do any other driver that matrox has created. If you dont believe me then do try these drivers and the beta ICD and benchmark them. The beta ICD (which i have if anyone wants it!) is the largest ICD and thus IMO cotains the most programming for the Opengl API. The 5.41 drivers also allow you to use the matrox tweak utility to overclock as the newer drivers dont allow this?!

It definately worth looking into.

Cheers!

[The PIT]

Maybe in your case they are but maybe not in everybody elses.

[Gurm]

Casper,

Some of us prefer less bugs, thanks.

And some of us run Win2k.

- Gurm

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Listen up, you primitive screwheads! See this? This is my BOOMSTICK! Etc. etc.

[Surfwienix]

won't work with all via-chipset owners, like me!

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>> Surfwienix <<

My System:

AMD K6-2/400 non-o/c
Epox MVP3C-M Super7 (VIA 4.24)
128MB SDRAM(PC100), CAS2
Matrox Millennium G400 MAX
(Driver Package 6.10.013 + DX 8) AGP2x/256MB @IRQ11(not sharing) non-o/c
Terratec DMX Sound-System
20,4GB Maxtor HDD (UDMA33)
6,4GB Maxtor HDD (UDMA33)
ASUS 50x-CDROM (UDMA33)
Realtek 8019 Ethernet (ISA)
Creatix HAM V.90 Modem
19" Monitor CTX-VL950T (95khz)
21" HP A4033A (2nd Display)
Windows 98SE (IE 5.5)

[Casper99]

Hello guys i thought i would reply,

PIT, This is true that not in everyones case but a majority, yes very True!

Gurm, No bugs what-so-ever you are almost critisizing it before ever trying it. I too run Win 2000 and still find the beta faster with the Win 2000 drivers but hey dont try it!

Surfwienix, Why wont it work with your via chipset??...dont knock it before you try it!

I just tried to offer a better tweak to the Matrox card and you guy's just wanted to cut it down before you even try it! Your choice obviously!

Cheers!

[Surfwienix]

i KNOW the 5.41 !!! believe me. they never worked!!!

[Gurm]

Casper,

We've all tried it. We all upgraded to PD6.

You must not have a VIA chipset or you would know about the problems. Also you must not use very many OpenGL programs or you'd know that the Beta ICD is buggier than the crotches in a whorehouse. And last but not least you know nothing about programming, or you would not assume that the bigger the ICD the better it is or the more code it has in it.

Now, under Win9x it may in fact be true that you can tweak up the Beta ICD to run pretty fast. But I seriously doubt it. You are the first person to claim that they can make the Beta ICD go faster than any of the finished ones.

As for Win2k speed, I'm willing to sacrifice a couple fps for all the benefits Win2k offers me.

- Gurm

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Listen up, you primitive screwheads! See this? This is my BOOMSTICK! Etc. etc.

[stevenscott]

From Gurm:

".......the Beta ICD is buggier than the crotches in a whorehouse. "


Gee thanx, I could have done without that vision.....

[Casper99]

Well to put it to the test Gurm here is my score using Wintune: Can you beat it?




Surfwienix, I am sorry that i am not aware of the actual problems with Via chipsets and Matrox cards and drivers. I would be interested in finding out can you please explain or give some links, i have been lucky enough not to experience those problems with my BX and ALI chipsets.

Cheers

[Gurm]

Casper,

You should know by now that very few people here care about benchmark scores... AT THE EXPENSE OF QUALITY.

I probably can't beat your scores. But my picture is clearer, there are less bugs, and I can run SMP.

- Gurm

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Listen up, you primitive screwheads! See this? This is my BOOMSTICK! Etc. etc.

[Gurm]

Originally posted by Gurm:
Casper,

You should know by now that very few people here care about benchmark scores... AT THE EXPENSE OF QUALITY.

I probably can't beat your scores. But my picture is clearer, there are less bugs, and I can run SMP.

- Gurm

P.S. Your scores are meaningless since we don't know your motherboard, CPU, chipset, RAM, HDD, or any other factors. I have machines at work that will walk all over your scores, but then again even a Rage Pro will walk all over your scores if you're running a dual-gigahertz box.

[The PIT]

Oh shucks here we go. If we can't win the argument lets go for something else ah yes benchmarks.
Try Quake and 3dmark no doubt someone will give you a run for your money.

[Casper99]

Hey man, i am not trying to start anything i guess i didnt appreciate you dismissing my findings without actually trying them and i dont believe you have. So i apologize if you got your nose out of joint wen i posted a benchmark.
All in all i just posted this info so that other Matrox owners could have another course of action when trying to tweak their cards, and i have the same visual quality as you do, i just SUSPECT that my combination of drivers works better.
So peace ok!?...PEACE!!!

God i cant wait till the G800 is released!

cheers!

[Indiana]

The Beta drivers were in fact MUCH faster in 32 Bit than the released ones the last time I tried them (I think at 5.52) - they were faster in Q-II and III, faster in Tirtanium (which is a quite comprehensive OGL benchmark).
Yes there sure are bugs, but I don't run Maya and most cool OGL stuff (screenblankers, most demos) that runs nice even on a TNT1 won't run with the latest released G400 drivers, either - besides the only apparent bug with the beta drivers I can remember was when using 16Bits in Tirtanium where the color were all fu**ed up.
But since the beta ICD in 32Bits was often faster than the 5.52 ICD in 16Bit, who cares?

I've dug out a Pic of some tests I have made with Tirtanium on my Athlon600@630, testing the Beta ICD against the 5.52 one:

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I think I'll be restesting this Beta ICD against the newest one on my Duron@1036 sometime soon...

[Casper99]

Thank you Indiana!!!,

I was only posting a fact!!!....and got shit on in the process i think GURM and some others around here should try things before they balk at them, i mean geez i was only trying to be helpful!....and it appears that like yourself Indiana if you try using the beta ICD then you can and will see that you get improvements!

Thank you for posting your opinion and findings hopefully this will be useful info to others as the original post was intended!

Cheers!