Vincent said we should read it closely, didn't he ?

[CHHAS]

The hardcore gaming marked segment is pretty small indeed, the casual gaming marked is not however.

Matrox isn't really competitive in this marked either, with the G4xx series being priced around the level of Geforce2 MX and Radeon SDR, Matrox isn't really an appealing option for OEM's right now.

I can't remember when I last saw a OEM PC with a Matrox card in it. Dell, IBM and Compaq all use either integrated graphics or nVidia cards.

It looks to me as if Matrox has become a on-demand product, and sales in this area must be slim.

[Ant]

What you must remember is that this guy is from Matrox PR, it is a very politcal speach designed to cover their assess.

[[GDI]Raptor]

Hmmmm....

This reminds me how much I dislinke pepole from Matrox PR.......



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- [GDI]Raptor

[LAMFDTK]

Matrox has but one purpose, to overpay Haig for all his efforts.

[Beezer]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by CHHAS:

...Matrox isn't really an appealing option for OEM's right now.

I can't remember when I last saw a OEM PC with a Matrox card in it. Dell, IBM and Compaq all use either integrated graphics or nVidia cards.

It looks to me as if Matrox has become a on-demand product, and sales in this area must be slim.</font>

The company that I work at has just purchased approx 1,000 new computer systems from Dell. My understanding is they all have G200's in them....

[Electric Amish]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">5/ Matrox's financial health
Matrox is a privately owned and privately funded company. Due to this, no financial information can be provided. I can nonetheless provide you with some precisions:
- Matrox has always been profitable since its creation. That is the reason why we never needed to call upon external investments.
- Matrox works on stable and very high potential markets (multi-displays, image processing, video acquisition) though its multiple divisions.
- Matrox privileges stable and serious clients (OEM)
- and let's not forget that Matrox is today the oldest graphics company with its 25 years of experience and innovation.
</font>

Gotta love that statement!

Evidence that they actually do have a clue as to what they are doing in this business.

amish


[This message has been edited by Electric Amish (edited 22 April 2001).]

[CHHAS]

Beezer:
I don't doubt that you can order a Dell with a Matrox card. I just checked their homepage (and IBM's and Compaq's), none of the PC's listed as standard systems have Matrox cards in them.

[mdhome]

Hello Chaas
I'm not sure what Dell say on their website but have a look at the following from the Murcers frontpage entitled

Dell Choose The G450
It seems that they have chosen it as an option for one of the Optiplex range.

I know it's not a g200 but this could also be an option.


regards MD

[CHHAS]

Cool

If it was up to me all PC's should come with Matrox cards

I just couldn't find any PC's with them at the top vendors sites

[Tempest]

Nevermind that one can't find 'em on the net, as long as they exist: http://www.matrox.com/mga/media_cent...te_designs.cfm
Gotta smile to that "world's fastest Windows acceleration" part

[Maggi]

Rags:
LMAO

Rubank:
try a different perspective ...

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by Jorden:
Well, I just used the desktop zoom in WinME and I didn't see anything inscrupulous. Lots of pixelation, yes, but it looked okay

Jord.</font>

better polish that monitor, Jord ...

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">11/ Next products
Visibly, your interest goes to Gamers solutions. I invite you to start by reading the whole of the answers I posted so you can better understand Matrox policies which, I can reassure you, are not turning towards the "low-end".</font>

[rubank]

Maggi,
that´s exactly what I did.

rubank

[moreau]

forgive my editorial:

This discussion is a large reason that I felt the industry made a mistake abandoning the separate 3D accelerator card model.

Buy yourself a nice 32MB AGP 2D card, which becomes quasi-permanent in your system. Upgrade a $150 PCI 3D upgrade card every 6-12 months, rather than a whole new 300-400 single card.

There were reasons to abondon it: e.g. everyone was going AGP transfer (or so they thought, since the technology still hasn't become ultra-necessary).

But there are solutions to must problems. Hucking away your 300 gaming card every 6 months is ludicrous.

[Wombat]

> Hucking away your 300 gaming card every 6 months is ludicrous

Damn straight. That's why my MAX is 1-1/2 years old. It still works. Well. And nobody says that you have to buy every new line nVidia puts out.

The days of a two-card solution are behind us for now. It's too messy. Display quality degradation, competition for bandwidth, and the special protocols and drivers for card-to-card interaction, god it would really, really suck.

[Lopez]

Here is a quote from a moderator at http://forum.matrox.com/mgaforum/For...L/000432.html, regarding the article from Planete Matrox forums.

<BLOCKQUOTE>Keep in mind that this is striclty talking about the hardcore gaming market, not the 'general gamers'</BLOCKQUOTE>
If they just release something (soon )that can compete with the GF2 MX and Radeon VE I'm satisfied.