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  • #16
    Okay, I get the point about the fan, it's pretty obvious anyway. Can someone explain me the process to do it?!(Not how to install a fan but change my G400-->G400MAX)
    Will I see any performance gain? Usually I'm playing games at 1024X768@16bit with most of the other settings set at highest level. In games like MOHAA for example, it was very dificult to aim or do anything (at the end of the game).

    Thanks
    Old rig:
    PIII 533 Slot1, ECS P6Bat-a+
    2x133MB PC133 Ram, Matrox G400DH 32MB
    Quantum Fireball Plus AS 40GB
    Quantum Fireball CR 13GB
    Yamaha CDRW 8424, Hitachi GD2500BX, Eizo T760 19"
    New one:
    P4 2.8C, MSI 865PE-NEO2 LS
    4x256 PC3200 Samsung Gold
    Club-3D Radeon 9800PRO 128MB
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA 200GB
    Quantum Fireball Plus AS 40GB
    Sony DVD-RW DW-U10A, Sony DDU1613
    Eizo T760 19", 2.1 Altec Lancing 2100
    HP printer/scanner, Microsoft KB/mouse/joystick, Wacom Tablet
    Antec Sonata Piano Quiet 380W case

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    • #17
      First, u need to run this command to extract the pins of ur card:
      progbios.exe -d>mypins.txt

      Pins will be saved in mypins.txt, then use any text editor to edit it.
      After u edited the file, flash it back to video bios using this command:
      progbios.exe -i auto -s mypins.txt -k

      The flash should be safe as I tried it a lot of times to overclock my MAX, and there's a recover ultility at Matrox's website in case if u fail.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by George YS
        First, u need to run this command to extract the pins of ur card:
        progbios.exe -d>mypins.txt

        Pins will be saved in mypins.txt, then use any text editor to edit it.
        After u edited the file, flash it back to video bios using this command:
        progbios.exe -i auto -s mypins.txt -k

        The flash should be safe as I tried it a lot of times to overclock my MAX, and there's a recover ultility at Matrox's website in case if u fail.

        Thanks for that.......... can you also give me a list of all the pin values I have to change?!
        Thanks
        Old rig:
        PIII 533 Slot1, ECS P6Bat-a+
        2x133MB PC133 Ram, Matrox G400DH 32MB
        Quantum Fireball Plus AS 40GB
        Quantum Fireball CR 13GB
        Yamaha CDRW 8424, Hitachi GD2500BX, Eizo T760 19"
        New one:
        P4 2.8C, MSI 865PE-NEO2 LS
        4x256 PC3200 Samsung Gold
        Club-3D Radeon 9800PRO 128MB
        Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA 200GB
        Quantum Fireball Plus AS 40GB
        Sony DVD-RW DW-U10A, Sony DDU1613
        Eizo T760 19", 2.1 Altec Lancing 2100
        HP printer/scanner, Microsoft KB/mouse/joystick, Wacom Tablet
        Antec Sonata Piano Quiet 380W case

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        • #19
          hhmm why is the -k I dont use that one and works for me to zo what dos the -k do ???
          specs p4 2.8@3.2Ghz Giga byte xnpbla bla 2x80GbHD Raid 0 creative audigy iiyama vision master 502 (21inch) a logitech mx700
          video is ati 9700pro modded to 9800 speeds volt mod ect ect

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          • #20
            Originally posted by OZZIE_NO_GOOD
            hhmm why is the -k I dont use that one and works for me to zo what dos the -k do ???
            Well, I don't remember the meaning of a -k parameter well, but it seemed to perform a forced flash, so it may be useful for modified pins such as change in clock frequency or even susbsys_ID.

            To Pegasus:
            Extracted Pins is actually long and I afraid I can't post it here, if u don't mind u can post ur email address and I can send the file for my MAX to u together with a little but very useful documentation.

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            • #21
              ok heres my email ozzie_no_good@hotmail.com its not to big i think because hotmail acconut isnt that big and else you can
              find me whith icq 65144799 thnx



              hoop i can push my g400 a little futher hehe jusat for the fun


              an onother question how can i see how much my ramdac is running because i a justed my pins now my info tab says max ramdac is 400 ???
              Last edited by OZZIE_NO_GOOD; 13 June 2002, 08:59.
              specs p4 2.8@3.2Ghz Giga byte xnpbla bla 2x80GbHD Raid 0 creative audigy iiyama vision master 502 (21inch) a logitech mx700
              video is ati 9700pro modded to 9800 speeds volt mod ect ect

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              • #22
                It's also easy to HOSE your cards up by messing with the PINS File.

                Gregg, you better get ready for the - "My G400 is Dead" threads.....LOL

                Paul
                "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ALBPM
                  It's also easy to HOSE your cards up by messing with the PINS File.

                  Gregg, you better get ready for the - "My G400 is Dead" threads.....LOL

                  Paul


                  hhmm the thread will be @#%^$^ my G400 is dead thank god the next matrox card is in my system now heheh running 5 times faster then the old g400 hehe


                  and after 3 year good servers he may go and burn out hehe hhmm hope not am hoping to put him in my girlfriend computer so she has some good picture qualty it is one blurry mess now hehehe
                  specs p4 2.8@3.2Ghz Giga byte xnpbla bla 2x80GbHD Raid 0 creative audigy iiyama vision master 502 (21inch) a logitech mx700
                  video is ati 9700pro modded to 9800 speeds volt mod ect ect

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                  • #24
                    can you also give me a list of all the pin values I have to change?!
                    you have to change positions 65, 66, 75 and 76 for clock settings:

                    65 1 150
                    66 1 75
                    .
                    .
                    .
                    75 1 150
                    76 1 75

                    for RAMDAC 38, 39, 40, 41,42 and 43:

                    38 1 90
                    39 1 90
                    40 1 90
                    41 1 90
                    42 1 90
                    43 1 90

                    And for the driver installer to detect your card as a G400 MAX you'll have to change:

                    :SubsystemVendorId 0x2179102b to :SubsystemVendorId 0x217D102b


                    Here's the Bios Restore utility from Matrox in case you screw it.

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                    • #25
                      yeah thnx m@ that pin i knew was wondering abuot the other pins and the 150 75 i dont make it that high hehe hes geting corrupted display

                      only thing i was wondering why is it 150 and 75 what is 150 and what is the 75


                      and the ramdac is running at 100 does it make any different in the screen display beter ore less ore is it only for very high resolutions ???
                      specs p4 2.8@3.2Ghz Giga byte xnpbla bla 2x80GbHD Raid 0 creative audigy iiyama vision master 502 (21inch) a logitech mx700
                      video is ati 9700pro modded to 9800 speeds volt mod ect ect

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                      • #26
                        Well, my experience on MAX is overclocked RAMDAC produces sharper image, and actually I overclocked mine to 400MHz.

                        And I uploaded the extracted pins of my MAX as an attached file, download if u guys need it. Remember to edit the card serial# in line 12.

                        There's some extra info to admiral's post.
                        In addition to line 38-43 for primary DAC, line 44 and 45 are the secondary DAC frequency, DAC frequency was set as DAC freq/4, so 90 means 360MHz.
                        While core speed in line 65/75 and 66/76 are set as core speed/2 and /4 respectively.
                        Attached Files
                        Last edited by George YS; 13 June 2002, 22:53.

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                        • #27
                          Well, my experience on MAX is overclocked RAMDAC produces sharper image, and actually I overclocked mine to 400MHz.
                          Psychosomatics. RAMDAC speed doesn't have an effect on image quality. If anything, your quality will get worse as the RAMDAC is pushed beyond its operating range. Oh yeah. you're shortening the life of your card, too.
                          Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by George YS
                            .
                            While core speed in line 65/75 and 66/76 are set as core speed/2 and /4 respectively.


                            ok what happens when i put the a nummer off for example 140 and the other not 70 but 75 will there be any differents in preformance ???
                            specs p4 2.8@3.2Ghz Giga byte xnpbla bla 2x80GbHD Raid 0 creative audigy iiyama vision master 502 (21inch) a logitech mx700
                            video is ati 9700pro modded to 9800 speeds volt mod ect ect

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Wombat
                              Psychosomatics. RAMDAC speed doesn't have an effect on image quality. If anything, your quality will get worse as the RAMDAC is pushed beyond its operating range. Oh yeah. you're shortening the life of your card, too.
                              Yes, I know my idea do not seemed radiculous. But it's what I found actually.

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                              • #30
                                yo hi all old g400 users i got question why don't i get my pinfile
                                it says this \


                                MGA Bios Programming Utility v2.18.000d
                                (C) Matrox Graphics Inc. (2001)


                                - WARNING: No MGA Board found !


                                why is that what am i doint wrong i have done the trik before but forgot him pleaze help


                                i used the comand in the run under start c:\mgafold\sysutil208\progbios.exe -d>testpins.txt


                                whats wrong ??
                                specs p4 2.8@3.2Ghz Giga byte xnpbla bla 2x80GbHD Raid 0 creative audigy iiyama vision master 502 (21inch) a logitech mx700
                                video is ati 9700pro modded to 9800 speeds volt mod ect ect

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