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**ayoub_ibrahim** · 2 August 2001, 08:56

rastlin4711, you seem to have given us the bios options without actually telling us which ones you're using so could you do so?
additionally, could you post a full listing of your irqs?

**Six Of One** · 2 August 2001, 09:01

Willkommen an Bord! Naja, besser spät als nie

Ok, please post your IRQs and your I/O adresses too. How to do this, take a look here: http://forums.murc.ws/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25593

THe procedure is the same for I/O, just go to the I/O (E/A in Deutsch) section instead of IRQ.

Can you also specify which games don't run and if you run in OpenGL or D3D? And please also add the driver version for your G450.

I don't own a G450, so i can be wrong, but i experience a similiar problem with my G400 in HL and any mods for this game. It runs OK in D3D, though. Needless to say i haven't found a solution yet

So, let's see what we can find out and if we can fix this.

Regards

**Six Of One** · 2 August 2001, 09:02

Close, so close....

Ayoub, i see you beat me to it... damn my typing spree.

**ayoub_ibrahim** · 2 August 2001, 11:14

Six Of One, please accept my humble apologies!

**rastlin4711** · 2 August 2001, 12:30

Diablo II LOD 1.08 D3D (most hang ups)
Unreal Tournament

Driver 6.51xx leastest

Terratec DMX xfire 1024 IRQ 10
G 450 16MB DDR DH IRQ 11
AVM ISDN Adapter IRQ 12

No IRQ are shared!!!

I/O belong to my grafikcard 000E041F - 000E051F

BIOS Options

Configure SDRAM Timing by: User
SDRAM Frequency: HCLK
SDRAM Latency: 2,5
SDRAM Bank Interleave: 2-way
SDRAM 1T Command: Disable

AGP Mode: Auto
AGP Comp. Driving: Auto
Manual AGP Comp. Driving: Auto
AGP Fast Write: Disable
AGP Read Sync.: Enable
AGP Aperture Size: 32MB
APG Master W/S Write: Disable
AGP Master W/S Read: Disable
Read & Write Delay: 2
Search for MDA Resources: No
PCI Master Caching: Enable
PCI Delay Transaction: Enable

Six Of One
My old G 400 has the same probs.
But more important is my G 450.

ayoub_ibrahim
Above are the options.

Thank for reply.

**ayoub_ibrahim** · 2 August 2001, 12:58

this is a good site for explaining what each parameter is & how to tweak it.
one thing that I did notice is your low AGP aperture size of 32Mb. in the first instance, I would increase that to either 64 or 128 to see if it solves your problem with 3Dgames.
btw, I use 256Mb AGP aperture size with my G400.

edit: have you installed all the necessary drivers for m/board?

**rastlin4711** · 2 August 2001, 14:00

Plug n' Pray ...

First of all thanks to all.

If you got other idias please post it.

And ayoub_ibrahim I will try to increase my
AGP Aperture Size to 256MB.
If you other special ideal, please post it.

And anybody want you can post also in german.
(not even nessesary but you could)

Hope to CU

**Six Of One** · 2 August 2001, 16:38

Well, let's keep it english, because some of the "more experienced" users here are english speaking. But then, who am i to decide?

Anyhow, i would like to see the devices that cause the I/O conflict. I am not certain but pretty sure that they are the reason for your problems, since UT is a D3D game and Diablo shouldn't utilize any 3D operations, or am i wrong?

I am not sure about the Aperture Size, the german Matrox support once said that users should set the Aperture Size to the amount of RAM on the card and i have kept it there since then. OTOH i still have problems in OpenGL

For starters please set AGP speed to 1x in the BIOS and keep Fast Write disabled. Also force the G450 to AGP 1x by using the MTSTU tool - found somewhere on this site - this usually helps on alot of problems with the G400, maybe it does so with the G450.

Just maybe: set the RAM settings for your mainboard RAM to Auto (which will most likely default to CAS Lat 3) and set the Bank Interleave to 4-way or to Auto too. If you don't happen to own brand RAM with appropiate stats you should try these conservative settings.

That's all for the moment, please give us feedbak on how different settings worked. Regards

Edit: here's the link for the MTSTU: http://www.murc.ws/cgi-bin/dl.cgi?si...l=mtstu418.zip

**Goc** · 2 August 2001, 16:57

You should set the apperture size to 128Mb or more, depending on the amount of RAM you have in your system. You said you have 256Mb if I am not mistaken so it would be wise to set the apperture size to that amount.
Check the temeperature of your CPU.
Few questions...
Latest DirectX?
Is the problem OpenGL related, or is it occuring in Direct3D also?
Have you tried Win2K?
Does your computer crash if not playing games? (Try running Seti@home, 3DMark and creating MP3's at the same time, to put your system to full load)

**rastlin4711** · 3 August 2001, 03:30

Here are News ...

The system give out a Windows "Protection-Fault".

After a crash the system say that, then I have to reboot
in the Saved Mode before I can reboot to the normal Win98se
mode. Thats new, I suggets it could be a wrong option
with my G 450 or my cordless trackball?

And Diablo is a D3D-game.

I will try AGP 1x and I try the RAM-settigns.

The 256MB AGP Aperture Size prevent obviosly some
crashes but even not all.

And Goc nice tip to max out zeh system resourcess
with some ripping MP3's and burnig some CDR's but
the system seems to be ok in the 2D-mode.

Win2k is not the solution because my hardware
dislike it, but thanks for the tip.
I got 2453 3DMarks @ 3DMark2001 not much but ok.

Since I set the Aperture Size to 256MB if got no crashes
under Unreal T.

OpenGL games aren't being a prob, I never have a crash
under such games.

I hope u r try to solve this.

Thx to all.

**Goc** · 3 August 2001, 16:16

Well, the protection fault thingy comes up on my machine mostly if I set the bios RAM settings too agressive (i.e. CAS2@150 Mhz)... Since I don't have DDR memory I'm not sure about that in your case, but you could try setting RAS/CAS latencies to 3.
Hope it helps...

**Maggi** · 3 August 2001, 17:03

sounds somewhat instable ...

[*]did you check for your case and CPU temperature ?[*]was is unusual warm outside when the lockups occured ?[*]are you using the latest MoBo BIOS and what was the procedure to upgrade ?[*]what kind of powersupply are you using[*]at what settings did your get 2453 Points in 3D Mark 200[u]1[/] on a G450 16MB ???

Just a few thoughts and it would be cool, if you'd provide a link to your mainboard.

**rastlin4711** · 4 August 2001, 03:14

Hi Maggi,

First of all thanks for your reply.
The trouble is only under Diablo II LOD,
UT makes no probs since I Push up the
AGP Aperture Size to 256 MB.
[*]did you check for your case and CPU temperature ?
CPU 49°C / SYS 44°C
[*]was is unusual warm outside when the lockups occured ?
No the temperature is equal!
[*]are you using the latest MoBo BIOS and what was the procedure to upgrade ?
Yes, I use the latest BiosVersion 1.04
[*]what kind of powersupply are you using
I'am using a 400Watt PFC PowerSupply 3,3V 22A , 5V 28A , I think that's ok.
[*]at what settings did your get 2453 Points in 3D Mark 200[u]1[/] on a G450 16MB 640x480 Z16 DB 16Bit

I hope You've got an Idea.

Link to Mainbord

http://www.msi.com.tw/products/mainboard/mainboard.php?model=MS-6380

And Goc I try to play with the DDR options!

**rastlin4711** · 4 August 2001, 06:13

I riddle it ...

Hi,
the prob is solved.

One 256MB DDR-RAM PC 2100 is
corrupted, over 7100 bits are damaged.

Thanks to all who try.

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