Matrox Interviewed

[xortam]

Originally posted by Rags
.... I don't take anything on a forum personally, btw. ...

My comment was really in response to Mike's emotional statement ...

Hmmm wonder what caps need to be replaced? Possibly the mains... the one that's connected to your brain possibly?

I felt that was a strange reaction.

Stability has been very important to me as well. I bought my P!!!/450 system two and a half years ago. Initially, I borrowed a graphics card from a friend because I was waiting for the G400 to ship. Five months later I order a G400 Max. I had to run the Max at 1x AGP otherwise the system would hang. This didn't seem to be a serious problem because many MURCers reported such problems and there reportedly wasn't any performance impact. So I'm running a processor that's within spec for my MB for over a year without any problems, yet the graphics card is throttled down to 1x AGP. I start reading on MURC from Maggi and others about how they've upgraded their P2B MBs with above spec processors. I upgrade my system to a slocketed P!!!/850 and my system is just as stable as it had been before. All is well until my buddy decides to give it a go with his P2B-LS and he lands up buying a Slot 1 Gigger. He and another friend of his with a P2B-LS couldn't get this processor to work in their systems. I plop it into my system and everything's hokey dokey, at least at first. After my friend takes my 850 home with him I eventually start running into problems. Now I could go back to running with my old 850 and stick my buddy with the Gigger or I could work at getting the CPU to stabilize with my system. I finally found a way to get it "stable enough" by temporarily swapping out the graphics card. I'm not thrilled about having to spend extra money on anything when I had a perfectly fine 850 system running before. The way I look at the situation right now is I can get back my now stressed out 850 (its been running at 2.05v in his system) or I could buy a new graphics card which will boost my 3D performance and I can latter use this card in my new system. I don't want to spend the time and money on a new Slot 1 MB which won't support the new processors and memory much less give up the on-board U2W SCSI. Once I get a new system I can put back my 450 processor and Max and use my old system for less strenuous work. I'd rather not put the problem back on my friend even though he's the one that made the mistake by buying the wrong processor in the first place.

[Rags]

Hey whatever floats your boat.

I think Mike's comment was tongue in cheek.

Rags

[xortam]

Originally posted by Rags
Hey whatever floats your boat.

I almost posted the exact same thing to some other threads the last few days.

Getting back my old 850 still isn't out of the question. He'd buy me a new FC-PGA 850 but they're impossible to find. I'm not thrilled with the idea that this Gigger will soon just sit on a shelf. Its quite a rarity itself.

[MetalCartman]

xortam,
maybe I got a deal for you. I could give you a P!!!/850E (FSB 100MHz) for your Gigger, which is a Slot 1/FSB 100MHz I think. The 850E's (both, Slot 1 and Socket 370) are available at a shop just around the corner here.

The only problem could be that I live in Germany...

Greetings,
Dan

[KeiFront]

Eh, can we talk about the matrox interview?

Xortam I hope you can find a second hand slot 1 PIII/850 cause this should solve your problems.

Bios versions contains microcode updates and maybe your 1 gig need an update that isn't available through your old bios, that's maybe why it could cause instability problems.

[xortam]

KeiFront, I had no intention on diverting the topic. Please post in my Gigger thread if anyone would like to contribute. I've tried numerous MB and graphics card BIOSes, including the latest Beta versions.

[KeiFront]

No offense xortam I will read your gigger topic maybe I can add some suggestions. [bragmode]My dual slot1 P!!!550 is still running fine[/bragmode]