Matrox Parhelia benches! weee I saw it in person!!!

[icemaker]

Got this from the Sharkeyextreme video card forum.

http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=136638

[[GDI]Raptor]

interesting..... This buy shure doesn't know what an NDA is

Let's give Matrox some time tweaking their drivers!! And we'll se in a couple of week what the card can do!!

[xortam]

Is there an echo in here?

[Ali]

The odd thing is that Matrox say the Parhelia will be able to turn on all the eye candy without having much of a performance drop, but from that link:

Quake3 medium detail 1024-768-32bit 55fps in surround gameing and 160fps in signle monitor mode


Why use medium detail? If you are only going to use 1024*768 (I would have thought 1280*1024) then why not pump up the eye candy?

Ali

[Kruzin]

That's 1024x768x3....or 3072x768...

[Stringy]

I had to sign an NDA so if you repeat this you didn't hear it from me.

Guess he doesn't care about that NDA much...
say anything on the web and in a few hours everyone knows what and who said it...
in 2 hours, what ever you said has been either multiplied by 2 or cut in half


Craig

[bobby2]

Lets also note that 55fps at 3072x768 on medium is fine. 160 on single is lovely, and medium is ok.

The drivers that go with this card are shiny new, as is the architecture. This is VERY different to the slew of NVid cards which are a well tested architecture, with progressive improvments in drivers, and with incremental hardware improvements.

Of course, Nvid cards have terrible display quailty, and will never have 3 monitors

Humph - this wait is testing my will to live.

[GT98]

ugh, like i said earlier, this card will not be good for UT 2003 it looks like

I guess I'll skip matrox and go for the R300 or NV30...

My god this guy is a ****ing moron...they only demoed UT2k3 on it

Oh some more thoughts....even though the guy who posted this signed an NDA and then promitly broke it...you have to wonder how good his info is

The Performance sounds pretty good..but like everything thats being said...its not gonna win the bench mark numbers race...but it will still run the games pently fine. Who can tell the difference between 100fps to 150 fps? I know I can't and you shouldnt be able either since your monitor is usally set at 75-85hz. As long as the avg frames per second is around 60...that will work for me

[Dr Mordrid]

They eye has a built-in latency of between 1/30th and 1/60th of a second, which is why most people perceive the 29.97fps / 59.94 fields/sec of NTSC TV as smooth.

As for myself I have excellent vision and have very fast reaction times...but still I find it very difficult to tell the difference between 60 fps and 200 fps.

IMHO arguing over boards with rates >100fps is just a bunch of people in a "mine's bigger!" contest. Pointless.

Dr. Mordrid

[david-e-lewis]

Originally posted by Dr Mordrid
They eye has a built-in latency of between 1/30th and 1/60th of a second, which is why most people perceive the 29.97fps / 59.94 fields/sec of NTSC TV as smooth.

As for myself I have excellent vision and have very fast reaction times...but still I find it very difficult to tell the difference between 60 fps and 200 fps.

IMHO arguing over boards with rates >100fps is just a bunch of people in a "mine's bigger!" contest. Pointless.

Dr. Mordrid

What about if you are playing a game - such as a first-person shooter, and you are rotating on a fixed spot? Let's say that in a game you can rotate 360 degrees in 1/2 second. At 60 fps, this means that there will only be 30 frames for the entire rotation, with each frame offset 12 degrees from the previous frame. In this situation, the picture will look rather jagged while rotating. This is the only case that I know of that a high frame rate (100+ fps) really pays off.

[Sasq]

And if you sit back from your computer and in your swivel chair do a 360deg spin in half a second exactly how jagged is your experience?

[david-e-lewis]

Good point!

[chr_79]

Originally posted by Sasq
And if you sit back from your computer and in your swivel chair do a 360deg spin in half a second exactly how jagged is your experience?

the difference is the motion blur

[Sasq]

Vaild point, however don't forget your monitor is probably restricted to max of 85hz at higher frame rates so more then that is unneeded.

[thop]

FPS 60+ is all about the penis size. i said this before. end of discussion.

i am a bit dissapointed though with these "benachmarks" . with a card that does probably cost 20% more than a GF44600 i expected at least GF44600 Performance. I dont need 200FPS now, but i want 60FPS at 1280x1024x32 in a year or two.