tomshardware review online!

[xortam]

The article seems to have been yanked/moved. I suppose it would be in bad taste for me to post my archives of the article. (insert : devilish grin : emoticon here)

[SteveC]

Anyone still got the review?

Quote from Kyle:
<I>3DMark2002 SE v330 - .... The 8500 dusted it again as well. </I>

Um, I only have 3 pics in my cache from 3dmark:

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Yeah, well 'dusted'

I *think* (but can't check cos the review's gone) that comanche4 and Dungeon Seige Parhelia beat the 8500.

[CaineTanathos]

please post your archive

[GT98]

Originally posted by outriding9800
kyle and tom for the longest time did not see eye to eye ( they did bury the hatchett ) and this probably just opened an old wound.

They didnt see eye to eye since 9/11 when he called [H] a wanna be news site due to the news postings on the events going on.

Heres his current update:

Earlier today a well-known German website disclosed their Matrox Parhelia numbers. The pages seem to have been removed at this time. While we cannot legally give you the content, as it is copyright material, we can certainly discuss what we have seen.

Aquanox - Parhelia was beaten by ATI's 128MB 8500 and the Ti4600 nearly doubled the score.

Comanche 4 - Parhelia not breaking the 30FPS barrier at 1024x768 while the Ti4600 broke 40.

Jedi Knight 2 - At 1024x768 the Parhelia was about 30% behind both the 8500 and the Ti4600.

3DMark2002 SE v330 - Just breaking into the 7000s while their test system was breaking 10K with the Ti4600. The 8500 dusted it again as well.

Quake 3 Arena - Parhelia lagging way behind both cards and not even giving deathmatch playable frame rates at 1600x1200 in my opinion.

At this point I am really wondering what Matrox was thinking. I know full well that they have explained that their Parhelia will be the card for tomorrow, but while it is currently not keeping pace with the current generation's GPUs, across the board, you have to wonder. Triple head gaming is not going to save Matrox this time round if what we saw is correct. I can certainly understand their reasons with not wanting to give the [H] a card at this point.

Um I hope this doesnt turn into another G550 fesaco...

[CaineTanathos]

but in 3dmark Nvidia always is better
don't care that much for 3dmark

[CaineTanathos]

hope some driver updates will improve performance

[xortam]

Originally posted by SteveC
I *think* (but can't check cos the review's gone) that comanche4 and Dungeon Seige Parhelia beat the 8500.

Yes, by about 5 FPS in their Dungeon Siege bench and 9 to 2 FPS (increasing resolution) in Comanche 4.

[Jazzz]

lol @ xortam i got the review archived as well but i think ill allow putting it up

[notagain]

Steve C
you will find me, rude ? but there i go

the only bench were the matrox is not buried, are synthetic benchmark.

and since the card doesnt seems to performs in curent game, its a bit of a bet to say that it will shine with futures one.

My point beeing it s a 400-500$ card! one could expect a bit more... ?

ok you will argue matrox FPS arent ATI'or NVIDIA... well I'm waiting for a review that shows this....

[Indiana]

But then everyone knows Comanche4 runs like crap on the R8500..

[thop]

some pls put the review up send me a link i will keep it secret

[SteveC]

I didn't catch all the review - I only have a few pics in my cache (showing P being beaten in Q3 and Giants).

I was just debunking that comment Kyle made, that's all. I know it was beaten else where in other benchmarks.

[Indiana]

Ihave the first part of the review in the cache I think. Unfortunately only part of the FAA/aniso scores..

[xortam]

I'm going to run some errands. I'll attach the archives if the mods approve and if someone hasn't already done it yet by the time I return. Off to lunch ...

[BuddMan]

Well, here's something I pulled from my cache. I wouldn't hold it in high regard though. I never trusted Tom's reviews....