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  • Water Cooled Parhelia

    Has anyone tried water cooling their Parhelia yet?

    If only I could afford one then I would try myself...
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    I am designing a complete watercooling setup for my cpu, chipset, parhelia core and maybe parhelia memory. but this will take some time.

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    • #3
      Ah so I am not alone (I thought someone else might try!).

      My project starts next month if I can spare the cash.

      Would you be interested to share your knowledge here?

      I have been doing some research and would be interested to know:

      - How you plan to connect everything up.
      - Is your case going to be windowed.
      - Where you are locating the radiator.
      - What components you plan to use.
      - Overclocking intended.
      Last edited by Enak; 23 July 2002, 23:26.
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      • #4
        Some simulation results...

        Swiftech design:

        Swiftech design with added pins:

        Our own design:


        That's about it actually, and the good part is our own design is much easier to manfacture.
        Last edited by P5ycho; 24 July 2002, 05:03.

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        • #5
          You look like you are spending quite a lot of time on this project!

          Looks rather good by the way!
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          • #6
            initial conditions

            It seems the initial temperature of the core is rather low. I don't know how high it can go on a parhelia core but you should check at what temp the heat exchange factor limits the efficiency of the system

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            • #7
              Funny your design looks virtually identical to a Innovatek InnovaCOOL copper waterjacket (it's internal construction is the same)
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              • #8
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                • #9


                  "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

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                  • #10
                    Innovatek is moving the right way, but their surface area is too small. They are probably making loads of money, since the block they are making is really simple to manufacture and very competative.

                    eftychios, the core dissipates 100W, water comes in at 22C. The simulation is run until a balanced situation is obtained.

                    Greebe, tom doesn't allow links to his pictures. Maybe you should upload them somewhere.

                    The problem i'm facing right now is the height of the block. this is no problem for a CPU, but it is for an AGP card. I don't want to lose more than 1 PCI slot...

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                    • #11
                      Took me a minute to realize the temperature scales were different.
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                      • #12
                        I wouldn't say they are moving in the right direction, I'd say they are doing it right based on similar (their) design.

                        It's the cost of the mounting system that jacks the cost of it up. When all combined it is the best waterblock on the market and that equals $$ (in their pocket ie why in business).

                        How can you compare fin surface area a la effeciency when you don't have their specs or even a working sample of yours?





                        btw Tom can bite me.
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                        • #13
                          Tom is actuallly biting us, since we can't see the pics want to show us now

                          The inside of the Innovatek:


                          Unfortunately I don't know how deep the cuts are so we can't simulate it. our current design is aimed at easy manufacturing, we're not done yet

                          What i meant with moving in the right direction is that they are one of the first companies that produce a waterblock with a copper core instead of the dangerden variations. According to our tests one should worry about surface area and decent flowrate, the copper ->water transition is the bottleneck. so surface area can never be enough. Heat moves in a sphere shape, but looking at manufacturing costs this seems like the best solution to us.

                          The latest design is less high and has a pyramid shape center:


                          Last edited by P5ycho; 24 July 2002, 12:51.

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                          • #14
                            The cuts between the top rings should be shallower to allow more water flow to be forced between the base rings. The design I currently use on my board is a very classic square-maze copper jacket. When I get home, I’ll post an image of the model I designed; it uses a focused jet and flow guides. I’m just seariching for someone who will CNC it for less than $200…
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                            • #15
                              What happens if it starts leaking

                              Cheers,
                              Elie

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