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  • #31
    true. I am starting to think that those who brought the Parhelia is a hardcore Matrox fanboy. Sorry if I offened anyone here, but IMO Matrox is getting further and further apart from nVIDIA/ATI day by day in terms of "general 3D grahpics power". I mean, even in pro 3D area the ATI/nV consumer cards are more suitable than a Parhelia in terms of raw "triangle setup" power. And then we are talking about high level shaders programming like Cg... if the industry start adopting it, Matrox is very screwed.

    About 2D... ATI/nV are pulling closer and closer to Matrox too. Keep in mind, for that small 2D difference, you are sacrificing a lot of 3D power. Besides, Radeon 9700 PRO probably costs less than a Parhelia in your local hardware store.

    Sad thing is, even S3 (even THE S3 damn it!) is rolling out their DX9 cards. Matrox's 3D technologies are similar to that of the "value" ATI cards, i.e. R9000. Even nV's "DirectX 9 for 79" card is more advanced than a Parhelia that costs ~400.

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    • #32
      u own a parhelia?

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      • #33
        I guess what I am saying is we need all the features at less than $200 US. No bugs. No excuses. Some 3-D Performance is imperative.
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        • #34
          you're gonna be waiting a while for any software or hardware without any bugs.

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          • #35
            There're some missing options imho:

            -PixelTOUCH. Simply rules.
            -Hardware TV-Out scaling engine. A feature missing since the G450

            And uhh, OpelGL2 support?

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            • #36
              I'd want medium performance gaming, a realistic medium price, DualHead + independant TV out, stable drivers, updated drivers when there's need for them, even after the product has been discontinued, and of course, great picture quality, for both heads and the TV out.

              AZ
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              • #37
                Originally posted by crow8k3a
                u own a parhelia?
                no, but why would u pay >500 dollars canadian for a "beta" card that has banding?

                edit: and would you call a card is of "good qualtiy" when its doing banding? sure, the 5th order filters and stuff are great, but apparently that 500 dollars card is not worth what its asking for. i.e. buggy FAA, faulty anisotropic filterings (according to Matrox the Parhelia core should be able to do 64-tap aniso.)
                Last edited by Chrono_Wanderer; 4 April 2003, 20:53.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ex-SalesSoup
                  wishful thinking...just thought the boards needed a bit more spice lately.
                  Your boards or our boards ?
                  Just kidding, it was the first thing that popped in my mind.

                  I voted for:
                  -Stable drivers (<- this goes without saying)
                  -UltraSharp Display Output
                  -High-performance for gaming

                  The others, in order of preference would be:

                  DualHead or DualHead-HF
                  Dual-Display plus TV-Output
                  Dual video overlay
                  FAA-16x
                  TripleHead (haven't got the room for 3 displays )
                  Hardware Displacement-Mapping
                  WYSIWYG Plug-ins for DCC (sorry for the guys who need this, but I at present don't really )


                  Jörg
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by VJ
                    Your boards or our boards ?
                    Just kidding, it was the first thing that popped in my mind.


                    right after I wrote that I knew someone would make the comment.

                    for the record, I meant THESE boards (aka forum).
                    OFFICIAL EX- EMPLOYEE

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ex-SalesSoup
                      right after I wrote that I knew someone would make the comment.
                      Euhm, glad to be of service !
                      Wouldn't giving a prize to that person be great marketing ?
                      (reminds me of a Homer Simpson quote: "Making promises is what makes me a good father, Lisa." Lisa: "No, keeping you promises would make you a good father." Homer: "Nope, that would make me a great father !" )


                      Jörg
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by VJ
                        Euhm, glad to be of service !
                        Wouldn't giving a prize to that person be great marketing ?

                        Jörg
                        i'm reminded of another quote by Homer Simpson in response to your comment:

                        "No."

                        Last edited by FormerEx-SalesSoup; 7 April 2003, 10:29.
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                        <font size="1">"So now I'm dreaming<br>For myself I'm understanding <br>Performing there, one hundred thousand fans would gather one and all <br>And so decided, we could rule it all if we should <br>Dance all away across the greatest city in the nether world..."<p>- Central Park 09/24/03</font>

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                        • #42
                          Let's continue this good way of marketing

                          I voted for:

                          - UltraSharp Display Output
                          - stable drivers
                          - High-performance for gaming
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ex-SalesSoup
                            i'm reminded of another quote by Homer Simpson in response to your comment:

                            "No."

                            ROFLMAO Now that really is make me laughing my a$$ off.

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                            • #44
                              LOL (great response, ex-SalesSoup !)

                              Back on topic: there cleary appears to be some concensus on this forum...


                              Jörg
                              pixar
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                              • #45
                                Now you have your market research, so the scores indicate that you should release a Parhelia II with ultra fast gaming speeds.
                                Last edited by bsdgeek; 8 April 2003, 13:55.

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