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  • My Copper Parhelia Modding

    Hi all

    My Copper Parhelia Modding!

    Last update 31 Mar 2003

    The Parhelia is very good card indeed. One problem with it, however, is that it runs extremely hot. I didn't measure the temperature, but I suspect it is in the range of 50-60 celsius.

    Before the modding, I managed to get it to 238 core 596 memory relatively stable (default 217/542). The max I've gotten from the card was 241 core 640 memory, but that was on an extremely cold day and I had my window wide open... the room temperature was like 10 celsius and I had to leave the room while benchmarking.
    This implies that HEAT is the very bottleneck of my overclocking advanture.

    So, to get better results, I had to mod it.

    My objectives as to the mods are:
    1. to be able to remove all the mods are restore it back to the original state in case I need to RMA it in the near future;
    2. all copper;
    3. look cool (subjectively...);
    4. not only core HSF, but also ram sinks;
    5. and, apparently, good cooling.

    I searched for a while looking for the best 1U copper HSF on the market.
    A list of the candidate and details here:


    While the CoolJag (Dynatron) one is obviously the best, it is a bit too expensive.
    Moreover, the ThermalTake one is immediately dropped out of competition

    For the rest, I needed to choose between Fin and Pin HSF design...
    At the end I chose the Akasa Iccile 350 because available, in good size and the Pin design gives me a bit of flexibility (see later).



    Okay then I need some ram sinks.

    The infamous TweakMonster ones were apparently very good, until I saw the price tag... 11 pounds for only 4 of them? I don't think so

    Later then I saw the CoolerMaster ramsinks and I immediately said to myself, this thing is cheap!! (relatively, comparing to TweakMonster ones)
    The Aluminium ones are just... what? 2 pounds! But the Copper ones are a bit more expensive, but it is still cheaper than TweakMonster ones.
    The cooling is not going to be as good as the TweakMonster ones due to the height, but I don't have much choice.



    Actually, I do. I have cut some P3 HSF into pieces that just fit. They are black anodised Aluminium. But, they don't look as cool! I do know that Copper and Aluminium are not much different in this situation... but... I really want some Copper

    There is one problem though. The BGA ram chips on the Parhelia are about 12x12mm, while the base of the CoolerMaster ram sinks is 22x8mm... it is not going to cover the entire area, and it would be too long too!
    After consulting with some knowledgeable geeks, they said that it would be okay. Let's see how it goes.

    Oh by the way, the ram sinks come with thermal tape so I don't have to use Arctic Silver epoxy, hence I am able to take them off at any time.
    P4 Northwood 1.8GHz@2.7GHz 1.65V Albatron PX845PEV Pro
    Running two Dell 2005FPW 20" Widescreen LCD
    And of course, Matrox Parhelia | My Matrox histroy: Mill-I, Mill-II, Mystique, G400, Parhelia

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    On to the modding...

    This is THE original Parhelia. The victim of the modding.



    The fan is changed to a higher CFM 50mm fan, instead of the original 40mm crap fan.
    It wasn't stable at 238 core overclock until I changed to this 50mm fan.

    Apparently I now need to remove the original HSF.
    To do so, I...
    1. Used a plier to remove the two mounting bolts;
    2. Used a hair dryer to heat the thing up a bit;
    3. Thermal material became less sticky, so remove the heatsink!

    And heatsink removed...



    That black glue thing is quite ghetto/cheapo/tacky, don't you think?
    To remove this black glue thing from the chip, I was originally going to use a shape knife... but then I was worried about unwanted scratches on the chip. So I heated it up again and used my FINGERNAIL to remove it... >_<

    Now, Akasa Icicle 350 test fit
    Looking good!!



    Fits perfectly!!
    I really want get this thing done REAL QUICK I can't wait!



    I used some masking tape on the back and test fit it again, so that I can use a pencil to mark the mounting hole from behind.
    I then of course drilled a hole, so that I can mount it somehow without the need of thermal adhesive.

    However, in the mean time...



    Ram sinks applied Looks better than I though!!

    Okay, I spent 20 minutes trying to drill a hole non-stop. Copper is much harder to work with than Aluminium... or I really need a better rotary tool.
    But anyway, it is done. I applied some Arctic Silver 3 (of course), and two drops of super glue on two corners, because I am worried about the weight of the Copper thing...



    About the hole... I used screw + nut to secure the heatsink.

    Now does it look good? Very copper-ish. I told you Copper looks way better than Aluminium!!!
    P4 Northwood 1.8GHz@2.7GHz 1.65V Albatron PX845PEV Pro
    Running two Dell 2005FPW 20" Widescreen LCD
    And of course, Matrox Parhelia | My Matrox histroy: Mill-I, Mill-II, Mystique, G400, Parhelia

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    • #3
      But... hmm... did I miss something? Oh yeah the fans!!



      Haha... if I'm doing it, why not do it to extreme? Two 80mm fans mounted!!!
      Use the original 26CFM 60x60x10mm fan? No I don't think so
      To make things even cooler (visually), they are blue lighted fans too! Produced by CoolerMaster.

      I bought the fans in Hong Kong for (roughly) just 2 pounds

      However, I do know this thing is heavy, and it might damage the components. With my rough estimate... the whole thing now weights more than 0.5kg, actually close to 1kg I think!

      No I don't want it die yet... it costs 300 pounds...
      So I made this little "device" to support some of the load.



      This is made the PCI slot bracket of a PCI USB card.

      ---------------------------------------------------

      So, the modding is done.

      I cannot measure the temperature because I don't have any equipment.
      And I have not done any benchmarking yet because housemates are watching movies on the Parhelia TV-OUT!

      But with my "finger test", the PCB is not very hot now and the ram sinks are not warmer than the PCB at all!

      Do you like my mod? Like me know

      wywywywy@hotmail.com

      Many thanks.

      HSF and ram sinks bought from http://www.theoverclockingstore.co.uk
      Not very cheap there but delivery is free.

      Check out http://www.wywywywy.com/parhelia for updates and high res pictures.
      P4 Northwood 1.8GHz@2.7GHz 1.65V Albatron PX845PEV Pro
      Running two Dell 2005FPW 20" Widescreen LCD
      And of course, Matrox Parhelia | My Matrox histroy: Mill-I, Mill-II, Mystique, G400, Parhelia

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      • #4
        Wow!

        This realy looks good! Have you tried some overclocking yet? And how much noise does the fans generate

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        • #5
          Very Nice! Copper is da Bomb for Cooling...

          Looking at what you have done, I think I will be up to something similar for my currently-unused Parhelia. I will likely be using a pair of 60-70mm Fans, but the heatsink, while definitely Copper, will be something a bit different.
          Hey, Donny! We got us a German who wants to die for his country... Oblige him. - Lt. Aldo Raine

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          • #6
            What you've managed to clock it too now ???
            Chief Lemon Buyer no more Linux sucks but not as much
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            • #7
              did anyone try watercooling?
              ASUS A7M266-D, 2 x Athlon MP 2000+, Viking 1G PC2100 ECC Reg, LSI MegaRAID Elite 1600 SCSI RAID, 4 x Seagate Cheetah 15k 18.4G HDs RAID 0, Barracuda 7 ATA 200G HD, Matrox Parhelia 256M, Antec True Power 550W power supply, Swiftech & Zalman watercooling & Cooler Master ATC-410 SX-1 Aluminum Server Case

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              • #8
                probably not many, as cooling doesn't seem the cause of the low clockrates of the Parhelia...

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                • #9
                  I love this. lol

                  1. to be able to remove all the mods and restore it back to the original state in case I need to RMA it in the near future
                  Good thing Matrox don't who you really are, this thread may give away the fact that you played with your P.

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                  • #10
                    WyWyWyWy: Really cool work. We want some OC numbers out of that beast!

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                    • #11
                      Hello guys I ain't got time to experiment with OC yet because I need to reinstall XP and install Server 2003.

                      Please give me a day or two...

                      In the mean time, I've done 12% OC no problem at all! Not sure about stability yet because I've only tried it once.
                      P4 Northwood 1.8GHz@2.7GHz 1.65V Albatron PX845PEV Pro
                      Running two Dell 2005FPW 20" Widescreen LCD
                      And of course, Matrox Parhelia | My Matrox histroy: Mill-I, Mill-II, Mystique, G400, Parhelia

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                      • #12
                        might i suggest to anyone trying to get their heatsinks off.. to freeze it, like put it in the freezer for a few minutes rather then heating up the card to get it off. it makes it a lot easier too.

                        typically the thermal compound used by glue the heatsink to the GPU, adhires to the surface better as the temperture goes up. only after pretty high temps does it stop being sticky and let go.. but by then you risk damaging your card.
                        no harm, no foul.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lim
                          did anyone try watercooling?
                          http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcw50.asp
                          I thought a MURCer a while back (forgot who) did water cooling to his Parhelia!

                          ahh... the good old days ;P

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                          • #14
                            Someone did indeed.
                            Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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                            • #15
                              C'est Moi=) On a custom copper block.

                              I got 15% overclock stable. Any higher and it would either lock up the system and video quality(mpeg, divx, et-c) degrades.

                              1.73TBredB@1.67(166X10)@1.6V
                              ASUS A7N8X
                              Corsair 1GB PC3200
                              Parhelia 128MB
                              EIZO L685EX

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